Charizard? Elevated from Obscurity? Charizard is like one of the most well known.


Charmander is the awesome lizard though!

 

Maybe no megas now means some of those Pokemon can get evolutions now.

 

So I've been walking around, doing my job and thinking about the whole dealio with missing Pokemon, mega-evolutions and Z-moves, and I think I just Galaxy-brained myself into loving this entire Gen.

Anyone remember in Gen 6 with a major multiverse splitting event that cause the pre-3DS games being the world's without Mega-evolutions? We could place SwSh into these timeline worlds! That means we could, in theory, find out what universe differences could've happened between Gen 5 and Gen 7, if anything. This could also mean that Gigasword and Gigashield (similar to "Ultra" beasts with "giga"maxxing) could take place in the timeline with Mega evolutions.

As for missing Pokemon, it could be the fact that infinity energy, discovered thanks to the Mega-stone event (which this universe lacks) has affected the accessibility between regions since it was stated in OR/AS that infinity energy helped these features in-canon. Trading, transferring, all that.

They might've found out how to make limitations into lore expansion.Best part? DON'T FAIL ME HERE, GAMEFREAK!!!!

 

I was thinking competitive obscurity, but I really should have clarified that.

 

In light of the kind of bummer news about Gen 8, we're going back to Gen 7!

 

Wow. Nintendo should just buy out Gamefreak's share of ownership over Pokemon and give it to a new developer. GF clearly doesn't care anymore, and they've literally said as much in expressing desire to work on other IPs (they literally ask job applicants "what's something you want to do here that's not Pokemon-related); they've halfassed so many things since Gen 6 that can be solved by expanding their operation (there's no reason a company with a product that big should have only 150 employees)

 

I've got a complete Living Dex. Keeping up on it is one of the main reasons I'm still invested in Pokemon games anymore. I sure as hell wouldn't have played through Gen 7 four times otherwise. I will not be buying a Gen 8 game until I can transfer all my mons. They'll just have to stay safe in my Sun and Ultra Sun carts. I refuse to allow them to rot in the cloud.

 

Shame about the entire dex not being included but if we get a selection of 400/500 Pokemon and then the rest in a remake of gen 4 with a patch that opens up like with fire red/leaf green and gen 3 then I’m not too fussed. Confused how competitive battling will go with a more limited poke pool but for all we know it’ll just be a couple months till they all become available like gen 6 and pokebank- I’m sure they’ll be working on the other models in that time due to the next game coming out etc so I’m pretty hopeful.

That question doesn’t come off as bad to me, they’re applying for a job and want to see if their potential employees have any further ambition other than just being a huge Pokemon fan.

It’s similar to “where do you see yourself 5 years from now in this company?”, if you go in and say “uh just where I am if I get this job”, you aren’t gonna look as good as the person who says “I’d like to learn and progress to different things and maybe move into a different role if one became available”, are ya? Gamefreak make more than just Pokemon.

 

update on Serebii regarding Patches.

I swear that "Active role" better be satisfying.... Also, called it.

 

I wouldn’t hold out hope. If they had time to develop anything meaningful for that app, they had time to put people on touching up Pokémon for Sword/Shield.

Get ready for the barest of minigames where pixelated Pokémon will bounce on your screen and you get 2 Stardust a week for it!  

I guess Home will be the main hub from now, and individual games will be more like somewhat closed off ‘chapters’, instead of the next step in the line and always expanding. Eventually we’ll all get used to it....

 

I swear it’s like they are trying to get us to not buy it!

 

That Active role better be more than just being available for use in competitive play and tournaments or loading one into that pokeball thing and taking it for a walk cause otherwise its not gonna be worth it to load more than you can transfer forward on to Home. Honestly I am not sure if i am even going to bother with Pokemon home or even transfering pokemon forward as for me and the way I play I am unsure it is even worth the time and money* to do so.

If i do transfer anything forward it may just be anything in sword and shield that's a hold over from previous games that needs to be traded to evolve to its final form, but I might not even bother with them as i am not a big fan of any of the pokemon that evolve that way as I have never really cared for that mechanic.

*subscribing to nintendo's online service.

Agreed, The decision to not allow all pokemon to be brought forward is mind boggling as everyone involved in making Pokemon had to know the fanbase would be angered by it and has literally did nothing to prepare us for it and just threw it out there matter of factly. They have also yet to do anything to soothe the open wound they have created.

I basically have the same short of a few pokemon i need to breed and evolve to replace some i traded to get the few i was lacking. I am also not keen on loading them into the cloud with a large number cannot currently be retrieved to a physical source in my possession.

 

Just found out about the lack of a National Dax for Sword/Shield. As someone who likes to keep a living dex himself and tries to catch them all with each new Gen (requiring so many transfers and new save files)... this news does not bother me.

What bothers me more is once more... the fans.

I can’t stand the current vocal outcry, I can’t even look at the Pokemon subreddit on Reddit as its filled to the brim with this sh*t. Nobody cares for your half-assessed attempt at a meme or that you canceled your Amazon preorder for the game to show protest for something that in the long run won’t matter.

Sorry but at this point I’m just losing all patience with fandoms; Star Wars, Marvel, Pokemon, etc.

I’m just going to sit over here and wait in hype and anticipation for Sword & Shield. Don’t know which version to get yet but I’m excited for a new adventure with Pokemon old and new, like I need that Corgi Pokemon.

 

And those people who are being affected by this don't care about you and you settling for less than we've gotten in previous games.

This is the first Pokemon game on a console yet it can't even do what something on the previous handheld did. Its mediocrity and, shock and horror, people have hit the limit of dealing with mediocrity.

This same console has BotW and Odyssey which are, y'know, kind of massive successes and welcome changes to the formula. Pokemon's going backwards and taking away things people love, and not getting anything in return except some vague promise of 'Active role'. They're on a bloody console and we've still got the same old 'characters stand at either end of a thing and don't move to attack each other' that they bloody sorted in both Stadium and the Gamecube games.

Buying the game is just encouraging them to keep churning out low-effort stuff. Go with your wallet and force them to earn your money, don't just slap it down because you saw a corgi.

 

Look I don't claim to speak for everyone, but as a fan of Pokemon I have personally given right the fuck up on 'Catching 'em all' as a fools errand. I am in this strictly for the narrative and new Pokemon.

Also, what version of Pokemon Stadium did you play? Because I had 'em both on the N64 back in the day and they basically played as the new 3D titles do now. The Pokemon were static at each end of the arena and it was turn based.

 

They at least had unique Pokemon specific animations for certain things. See: That famous clip of Blastoise using Hydro Pump and it not coming from its guns in LG. Which didn't happen in Stadium. Or stuff like, heck, the Surfing and Pikachu having unique animations just to those two

A main Pokemon game for consoles for the first time should be a massive event like Kanto in G/S was, but this scarcely seems beyond what the last games had. Same models as last game, same animations as last game, and their excuse of 'balance' is laughable. If balance was ever a concern, Mega Rayquazza wouldn't have existed

 

I get where you’re coming from, and I have the same feeling about a lot of fandoms to be honest (including Transformers).

This is going to be an awesome game nontheless, and I’m sure it will still have at least 400 Pokémon (random guess, but that’s what Sun/Moon games had as their dex, I think?) which is not bad at all.

I just think they should’ve been upfront about it from the very first Direct a couple months ago. Not just casually mentioning it after two Directs, Home announcement and at the end of their Treehouse playthrough.

Apart from all the reasons people have mentioned before, I just think I’m not alone in wishing this to be the pinnacle of the games for now. Finally a full-fledged game on console...and it looks so, so awesome! So it’s completely frustrating that they took this moment to change course (and I bet many people would not be as opposed if, say, they’d tell us one year beforehand they would change course for the next game).

However I can totally agree that the grief and negativity in fandoms is very annoying a lot of the times. I guess the bar for what’s justified critism and what isn’t varies from person to person, tho.
In the end, I can easily see why this change would not be a big deal to some players at all, and that’s fine too. Despite my disappointment I’m sure in the end I’ll love playing this game.  

(And yes, canceling preorders is going to do jack shit and is not some kind of ‘pride’ thing. This game will sell like hot cakes anyway!)

 

Its not low effort. A YouTuber I watch did a video on this and it got me thinking but maybe its to much trying to fit over 800+ Pokemon in the game? Maybe they'll improve and learn with future installments after the fan backlash? It doesn't mean that people have to boycott this game, there is a lot in this game that has got my eye and not just some Corgi Pokemon as you point out. I have loved Pokemon for years and I refuse to stop now just because one game doesn't allow me to catch all 800+, if I did I would stop playing Pokemon Go on my phone till they updated the game to Generation 7. And I'm expecting hate for this, but the whole "Speak with your wallet and don't settle for less" line I've seen used over and over is just bull sh*t and one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

 

If it was only the actual national Dex it would be ok but the lack of those Pokemon being programed into the game at all is the problem. If I want to use a gen 5 starter and they aren't in the swsh Dex I can never use them because the files for them don't exist in swsh. I can store them in Home but would have to wait for another game at some unknown time to use them. Honestly I'm keeping my pre-orders for now to see how this plays out.

 

Gamefreak and the Pokémon anime have many things in common, in that they’d sooner let themselves die than change anything