All Encompassing Godzilla Thread

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by Blaster_Prime, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. Meta777

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    Ghidorah got the upper hand in round 1 when he knocked G off that cliff, but when the jets started blasting him, he realised Godzilla had help and decided to run rather than be outnumbered

    Round 2, Godzilla dragged him into the water and started ripping chunks off him, he had that one until the OD hit.

    Round 3, Godzilla had the upper hand thanks to his power boost. But then Ghidorah got his own power boost and turned it round. But then Godzilla got another power boost, plus some extra help, and won.
     
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    Godzilla had KG dead to rights during their second fight, what with his vast superiority in the water. I think he even performed death roll to help tear lefty off. But of course, the humans royally screwed themselves when they decided to kill two birds with one stone, but only managed to nearly kill the one trying to save their ass.

    Now, maybe Ghidorah would have still used his insane regeneration to negate all the damage that Godzilla would’ve dealt if the military hadn’t gotten involved, but he would have had Ghidorah right then and there.
     
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    He did indeed! He kept rolling three-head, giving him no footing to try and fight back or flee and making it all the easier to put those jaws to work, just as a crocodile would.

    Y'know, it does help show that Godzilla's quite a smart cookie behind his typically blunt approach. When his foes are giving him trouble, he finds ways to work around them. Hokmuto a flighty little nuisance? Turn his back and lure him into a sucker punch. Femuto too bulky to incinerate? Blast it down her throat to the soft parts. Ghidorah got one up on him? Drag him into turf where he can't fight properly. Godzilla will always start with a straight fight, and uses what he learns from the conflict to ready a finisher. Neat!

    Fret not. As with the dreadful Hydra, the best way to deal with a chap who grows their head back is to scorch the neck, and Godzilla's got a pretty good scorcher on him :D 
     
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    I honestly love how the creative minds over at Legendary have really embraced Godzilla's more reptilian qualities with his Monsterverse self. In the past, he's always straddled that line but never fully went to one side or the other. Here though, it's like yes, as far removed from every single species of similar attributes as Godzilla is, he is still essentially a gargantuan reptilian creature.

    It'd make sense for him to do things like performing a death roll to help tear off a pesky appendage, and pin and bite into opponents like a big komodo dragon. The dynamical nature of Legendary Godzilla's fighting style, and just the way he carries himself is truly awesome.

    And, as a side note, some times he just looks like a big ol' grumpy bear and I want to give him a bloody hug.
     
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    Given how it’s only 9 and a half months away, how long do you all think it will be until we get our first look at Godzilla vs Kong?
     
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    ... When is San Diego Comic Con?
     
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    Unfortunately, WB is skipping Comic Con this year, with the exception of ScareDiego where they will show IT Chapter 2 stuff. Otherwise, nothing else. No Godzilla Vs. Kong preview.
     
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    That sucks. What are the chances that they'll show a trailer before September? The movie is less than a year from release and by middle to end of summer, even more so.
     
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    I'm thinking around November/December if the don't want to release a trailer too early.
     
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    Hollywood should stop to change the release date.
     
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    That sounds like a Michael Bay Godzilla film.
     
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    Would be too campy if they put the shobijin.
     
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    Finally got to see it

    8.5/10


    Okay… I heard many people say this is geared towards the fans, but I think this is a bit of an exaggeration. Yes, it’s aimed at monster fans, but to say it’s aimed specifically at Godzilla fans is a bit inaccurate as it’s not filled with endless Godzilla references and an average viewer can watch this movie fine without being lost in continuity issues as some people put it out to be.

    The music. My God, I never expected to hear the classic themes in the American Godzilla movies. Some scenes I would hum Godzilla’s classic theme only to hear the movie using that theme!

    The action is without question is one of the best parts about this movie. It doesn’t deprave the viewer from monster fights of all kind, but it kind of made the human side of the story a bit weaker.

    Monster designs are great. Excluding Godzilla’s minor tweaks, King Ghidorah was amazing. When I saw it in toy form I thought the wings were unnecessarily too huge (you know it’s too huge when you need stands to for the wings alone, and NECA who made ¼ scale Hulk thinks it’s too huge to make) but I liked how they were used like limbs to walk on them like some dragon designs or a pterosaur.

    I liked the fights, but sadly it went with the same mistake as the first movie where it’s in the dark which made me worried about the home releases repeating the same mistake of using crappy masters and giving us a release too dark to see anything. On the plus side we have colorful displays so it’s not just black and red as the MUTO battle.

    Overall, I give this movie 8.5/10. It’s an entertaining Godzilla movie and an entertaining monster movie for the fans. Go check it out. You won’t regret it.


    Okay, now let’s talk about spoilers

    I mentioned that the human side of the movie was a bit weak, and it’s for two reasons. The first being due to the movie jumping all over locations introducing the monsters as quickly as possible, it didn’t give us enough time to establish the humans properly and it’s only done throughout the movie where more things about them are introduced bits by bits from their backstories to personalities.

    The other reason is the undeveloped villains of the movie. You have Alan Jonah played by Charlie Dance who was made to be the real human villain of the movie being an MI-6 defector and an Eco-terrorist but his presence is barely in the movie you can write him outside it and you won’t lose anything.

    Then you have Emma Russel played by Vera Farmiga who in my opinion the real villain of the movie. I laughed at how the movie tries to paint her as a sympathetic character who we should feel sorry for her because she lost her son, but no. She has a sympathetic backstory, but she’s not sympathetic. She a delusional who willingly released the monsters and openly declared humanity’s death is a good thing. She’s not a hero, she’s a crazy mad lady and I didn’t feel sorry for her.

    Now her ex-husband on the other hand, Mark Russel, played by Kyle Chandler, is a character I was interested in his story and the most developed of the cast. Unlike a certain Titan hater, I felt his growth in the movie from hating Godzilla and wanting him dead as revenge, to him learning and experiencing firsthand that Godzilla wasn’t as evil as he thought he was, and his existence was for the best of everyone.

    Some human dialogue can come a bit cringy, but it’s not as awful as many people put it. But then again, I have a terrible sense of humor so maybe it’s me who can’t tell terrible humor from the good one.

    Serizawa’s death… well, it was much better than Joe Brody’s death in the first movie, but it sucks that they killed him and not lived until Godzilla vs Kong. But it doesn’t feel forced if you paid attention to his arc and dialogue in the two movies. Also, Dr. Serizawa sacrificing himself to activate a machine next to Godzilla? But instead of killing him it’s to revive him? Clever.

    Regarding the Easter eggs, they were fine, but the Oxygen Destroyer felt the most forced out of everything. And the most pointless reference since it didn’t kill anything and knowing the Monsterverse is ending after Godzilla vs Kong, we are not getting Destoroyah. They could’ve named it anything else, but they went with this reference just because.

    Also, yeah. Killing Godzilla in the middle of the movie. As if anyone would buy that.

    On the monster side, I think Rodan was the most wasted of them all, which is ironic when you have Mothra who’s job in most of the movies is to die before anyone else. Now being Ghidorah’s lackey is something I did like at first, but after his pathetic defeat by Mothra he went out of the picture only to come back at the end just to bow to his new king, and we didn’t get the 3-on-1 brawl we all hoped in seeing from this movie.

    There were other titans in the movie, like a creature that looks like a gorilla with mammoth tusks that I believe is called the Behemoth as per the credits scene, and a spider creature that obviously should’ve been Komunga and some others out there including another MUTO. The movie said there were at least 17 titans, but sadly beyond the main four, none of them were any of the classic Toho kaiju. No Anguirus, no Kumonga, no Baragon, no Manda, instead they were new substitutes we barely know anything about them and I’m pretty sure TOHO’s licensing is behind this. But I shouldn’t be surprised because every Godzilla fans knows TOHO are a bunch of assholes who like to have dick measuring contest by making every new Godzilla bigger than the American one until they topped it off by having a planet sized Godzilla.

    Overall, there are great things about it and some improvement over the 2014 movies, but the human story had its weaknesses and some of the pacing was a bit all over the place, but Godzilla fans will enjoy it.
     
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    The key difference here is the monster parts are actually good and the human scenes don't come across like a deliberate attempt to piss the audience off.

    Whereas a Michael Bay film consists of an hour of douchey humans hyperventilating their way through careless exposition and unrelated scenes of painful humour to try and kill time before disappointing and overly frantic CGI nonsense can take place, this movie served delicious Monster Madness up at regular, digestible intervals and merely had bad, forgettable human moments as breath-catchers in between.

    If an ideal movie is a relaxing, well-paced drive through the mountains, KOTM is more like an otherwise fun ride interrupted by breakdowns and flat tires, while a Michael Bay movie is a full acceleration at top speed into the nearest shear cliff face. Neither are as good as they should be, but at least you're not on fire at the end of one.
     
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    Ok man, tbh we (my family) the action was kind of chaotic in the 1st battle.

    How can anyone compare this to a BayTF movie?! This movie had more action and focused more on the main attractions which is were the kaijus.
     
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    They already put them in King of the Monsters, they even included multiple generations.
     
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    As opposed to a little girl being right next to Ghidorah's beams and not even getting even a tiny burn?

    Or that people can't seem to locate a giant friggin monster that was right next to them 20 seconds ago?

    Or that everyone apparently up and abandoned San Francisco after the battle with the MUTOs?

    Anyway, we got together with two of our friends and did a spoiler talk video. It's an hour long, so I'm not sure if anyone wants to actually listen to us talk about the film for that long, but if you're curious, here you go:

     
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    KOTM was vry dope