the complete marvel cinematic universe thread

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by Crazy Ramjetty, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. MatrixOfWumbo

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    She's missing all of the memories and experiences to make her the real Gamora.
     
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    Nah. She's the real Gamora. She is just not as far in life as the other version was and will never live the same experiences.
     
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    Maybe if the character is ever revisited in a future film/TV series, they can toy with giving him a more comic-inspired costume.

    But for his role in Civil War, he was infinitely more interesting and compelling by just being "some dude", rather than another costumed nutjob.
     
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    No. No she is not.
     
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    Yes, she is. She's not from a parallel universe, just different timeline. So that makes her every bit as real as the one that died.
     
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    To be fair, Gamora is probably the least changed of the Guardians cast between Guardians 1 and Infinity War. She pretty much just learns to open herself up more to other people. Don’t get me wrong, that’s a big deal, but she’s the first of the Guardians to really take responsibility and try to do the right thing. Now she’s betrayed Thanos again in Endgame. So she’s like 80% the same person, just without the life experience and relationships of the Infinity War Gamora.
     
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    Being from a different timeline doesn't make Gamora any less "real" than the one that died. Her life is still exactly the same until the point future Nebula connected to past Nebula. It'd really be no different than if the character suddenly developed amnesia and forgot the last 5 years. But everything that made Gamora who she was is still there, as we do see a little bit of in Endgame. She'll have to learn to trust and open up to the Guardians all over again, but they'll be there to help her understand what she has missed out on.
     
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    Yes. Yes there is. Amnesia means she cannot remember something that has happened. As she stands now has never experienced these things at all. If all Gamora had was amnesia, its just a matter of recovering what she has lost. At the moment, she has nothing to recover.
     
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    Those 5 years are the most important ones of her life. Without them she may as well be a completely different person. You can't rebuild that. And they won't. James Gunn is not a stupid filmmaker. Guardians Vol 3 is not the final season of Chuck.
     
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    No. Memories are not always recovered in every case of amnesia. And the effect is still exactly the same, whether she can't remember it, or it hadn't happened for her yet. She's still the same person, with a gap of the last 5 years.

    I'm not saying things will go exactly to the way they were for her. As I'd said, she'll have to learn to trust and open up to the Guardians again. But I'd have to disagree without those 5 years it would make her a completely different person. Again, the majority of her life was exactly the same. Most of who is was as a character is still in place. It's not a complete reset of the character like you're making it out to be.
     
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    Gamora is like Data's case in Star Trek

    Data pretty much died in Star Trek Nemesis but he got replaced by his prototype B4. But even with receiving Data's downloaded memory, he's still not the same Data the crew and fans are familiar with. He may look like Data, have his memories, but he doesn't have the same experience as Data. He's someone else taking his place and not a 100% replica. Having the same memories isn't the same as experiencing these memories first hand.

    Same as 2014!Gamora. Even if she had received the same memories of the original Gamora up until her death, that wouldn't make her the original Gamora. She is still 2014!Gamora without the development the original had.
     
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    Thor 4 should just be an extended episode of Maury if another lost sibling is introduced
     
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    but people die when they are killed in the mcu
     
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    If they were true Tony fans they’d actually realize his ending was poignant yet beautiful and his sacrifice would mean nothing if he suddenly came back. LET HIM REST.

    God I hate stans sometimes. There are twitter accounts so blindly protesting Tony’s outcome you’d think they were parody accounts. I really hope Marvel doesn’t pay attention to petitions like that at all
     
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    There's a petition for everything these days! lmao! It is entertaining and hilarious, I gotta admit.
     
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    100% Agree. If your a fan of RDJ’s portrayal of the character, you know that his character arc is complete and his death was the conclusion of it. To bring him back would be throw that away, making it irrelevant.

    Tony Stark AI like Jarvis? Sure. Thats a different situation and has happened in the comics. But it would pull away from the character arc to have him just be resurrected.
     
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