I don't think Bran has any ploys. He has an idea of what will happen. I think he learned his lesson on tampering with Hodor. Poor Hodor  .

 

I posted the same pic 3 posts above....

 

Only way I revisit GOT now is if John has to come back in 10 years and put his out of control family down . The one prequel is supposed to be more diverse and female- oriented which makes me wonder what have I been watching the last 2 seasons. Ugh, I mentioned final seasons are hard to pull off but I looked at both this and last season as the final season. They tied all the loose knots but I wonder how many people will actually buy those DVD sets or rewatch the entire series now.

Well atleast I have Listening Snow tower to watch for now, hope that doesn't go down the tubes, though I expect an unhappy ending.

 

I enjoyed everything up til the final council. Felt so forced to wrap everything up. The fact that Jon being the true king not even being addressed was beyond ridiculous.

Also, Jon's constant defense of Dany after King's Landing was just head shaking.

It's a shame that the ending had to be rushed, cause it puts a serious strike against one of the best TV series in decades.

 

I felt similar. I was quite on board up until the council, and was fine with it after that scene. The council scene just felt weird and without justification or precedent, and I was disappointed they hand waved away how in the world Jon got out of his predicament in the interim. How were Jon and for that matter Tyrion not already dead at that point?

 

Spoliers...

Some 10 pages back, I predicted that Jon would go Kingslayer and take out Dany to keep her from becoming a mad tyrant like her father. I could see that coming, but some of the other stuff...

I think this season suffered from a lack of source material to draw upon, and the lack of episodes to flesh things out didn't help. As far as the ending, there were too many things that made the finale feel unsatisfying:

Cersei not receiving the horrific on-screen death that she deserved
Jon and Greyworm didn't get to settle their differences with the sword
Jon being used as everyone's puppet only to be exiled back to Castle Black for his efforts
Arya becoming a sea-wandering vagabond for "reasons"
"Bran the Broken" being elected as the new King made the most sense, but it felt like "Okay, whatever..."
Same with Tyrion as Bran's Hand
Without Dany, who will lead the Dothraki? Greyworm? Yeah, that'll work out.
While humorous, who the hell elected Bronn as master of coin?

Overall, I thought the finale was... passable. Kind of like "C-" work. I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it either. The best part was Drogon torching the throne, collecting Dany's corpse and bumping out. Watching the finale was like eating a steak that looked and smelled the part, but tasted plain and bland.

It looks like my watch has ended... and so will my subscription to HBOGO.

 

I got a kick out of the democracy attempt. I guess they were trying to drive home how lineage is a horrible way for Kings/Queens to happen, but the irony is that Bran literally leaves being King to his council, which is sure to be just as corrupt as lineage.

So nothing was learnt from this except that they let the most morally righteous character deserving to be king become an exile.

 

This was obviously the most production gaffe'd season... behold, the now infamous plastic Water Bottle, Angry Fan Sh**stormborn, last of its name in GOT, bringer of memes.

Spoiler

It isn't as bad as the House Starbucks "chalice" but seriously... did anyone REVIEW the daily footage or think about ways to crop and zoom these scenes? Or did they spend all of their budget on special effects and there were nothing left of F***s to give?

 

I’m more surprised that anyone spends the time to look for or get worked up about little background errors that 99% of viewers would never notice.

I love these little snafus personally. Just like I look forward to finding a typo in every novel I read. There’s almost always at least one.  

 

I don’t give a fuck about the background mishaps- didn’t notice them when the episodes aired and just thought it was funny afterwards, shit happens.

So yeah final ep. I enjoyed it, felt like more of an epilogue than I would have liked, think I’d have enjoyed it more if it was back to back with last weeks but whatever.
Would like to see Bran acting as a king, no idea why he needs a whisperer  

 

As someone that has worked many films, it is very easy to miss such things. Nevertheless, those things are usually confined to background crew and wide shots. Missing these things for core character scenes is absolutely the work of laziness.

That said, I love production errors.

 

The Dothraki were shown going aboard ships at the same time as the Unsullied.

 

Concerning Jon,


I know it wasn't the ending that a lot of people thought he deserved, but it was the ending that I feel he was happiest with. The circle completed itself and Jon was always more of a northerners in heart and content with being a night watchman.

Hell, he wasn't even a NW at the end. He was the leader of the wild folk and the story continues from there. All the usual NW talk meant squat cause we know that season's pass where he rose still rose to become king of the North.

I feel it's less that he didn't get the Iron throne, but that no one got it in the end.

ETA, I will say it was a major flaw in his character this finale that he didn't embrace his birthright. Kinda been the point of Jon that even though he hates leadership, he will step up because it is his duty.

 

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/05/20/maisie-williams-to-host-uk-rupauls-drag-race-for-bbc/

 

Exactly. I'm done with this shit sandwich and not going back for seconds. My more immediate concern is D&D's impact on Star Wars, but that franchise is already starting to wear itself out. I'm not sure if they can hurt it any more.

 

Thinking back on the series, Battle of the Bastards was the peak of the series. Didn’t have any dragons or magic. Just a good man winning over a dickhead.

 

That was the last time John Snow showed any intestinal fortitude before he went emo

 

The show has spent its duration shitting upon the morally righteous and punishing them for the slightest honour. Why would it’s conclusion be any different?

 

Funny. Really impressed with the absolute lack of proofreading in any single episode of season. Practically every episode is populated by asinine situations that one proofread should have cleaned up; Cersei not killing Danaerys and Drogon when they are standing right in front of Scorpions. Jon escaping killing Danaerys and then having to leave Kingslanding for no reason what-so-ever. Coffee Cups N’ Water Bottles, what lazy trash. What in the actual fuck my kids are watching an episode of Phineas and Ferb with more attention to detail than the final season of one of the biggest TV shows of all time.

You know I would be fine if Jon actually embraced either direction. He could have claimed his birthright and the realm and I would have said Great! The Prince who was Promised! Finally cohesion in the story. Plot points fulfilled. He could have claimed his birthright and then rejected rule and moved to the North because he was happier and wanted to be there.

But no this is TV GOT Jon Snow who doesn’t ever know what the fuck to do. Could he have decided on his own to kill Dany, because it was the right thing? No, Tyrion had to spell it out for stupid. Could he have maybe spoke for himself at the final meeting of Nobles? No. Jon Snow is a bystander in the entire story, even if he wants to be in the North with Wildlings we don’t know because he doesn’t open his stupid emo trap. But it’s not surprising coming from Lyanna’s abortion of a son who was so clueless Ygritte had to tell him to bang her.

 

In that respect, Jon Snow's character felt very much like Harry Potter to me. He never really made decisions by himself (except maybe where he decided to befriend the Wildlings and got betrayed and killed for it, but even then his ruse about defecting from the Nightswatch wasn't even his original idea in the first place but from another NW member that he was forced to fight and kill as part of said ruse way back when to get in good with the Wildlings and gain Mance Rayder's confidence). His character kinda just reacted to things that were forced upon him by plot necessity and he just went with the flow.

That Kingsmoot was like the ultimate culmination of that. I mean, it was the best possible outcome for him though. Jon is reunited with Ghost and gets to lead the Free Folk with his bestest bud Tormund and have adventures up north beyond the Wall. Not too shabby for regicide, kinslaying, and general betrayal.