Well could it explain that maybe he was in the Arctic Circle? Is it was mentioned in the 07 movie

 

I think the entire prequel vs reboot was resolved in the last minute. Thats also why the last scene was so forced

 

It's pretty much all but confirmed to be a reboot. You really have to bend the rules of space-time for this film to be connected to TF07. (Even given the often spotty continuity of the films)

 

I dunno. I'm glad he wasn't though. Movie Megatron sucketh ass.

 

It seems like the whole it being back forth so many times with it's a prequel, no it's a reboot, no it's not a reboot, well maybe it's a soft reboot, maybe we are doing like Warner Brothers and just sort of ignoring some stuff until we can figure out what will work. Heck it was almost at the end of the box office run before stories seemed to get straight on the whole reboot or not reboot thing.

Just taking an educated guess here but maybe the studio dragged their feet too long on letting the director include Megatron on Cybertron. Yea I wanted a good old knock down drag out between Prime and Megatron on their home planet just like everyone else, but it all had be all nice and polished so with time up they decided oh well maybe some other movie. On the bright side though we did get a load of A list Decepticons and Autobots on Cybertron so one Megatron free fight isn't the end of the world, well not the end of our world since we don't know the exact shape Cybertron is in for the new continuity.

 

Yes, it was, and yes, I do. We know the original cut of the movie had no Cybertron scenes at all.

Adding one extra robot after the dozens that were put into those two scenes wouldn't have been that much, relatively speaking, especially since you could've easily kitbashed Megs using the existing models. (much like how Soundwave and Shockwave were both made using reused parts) Apparently Shatter and Dropkick didn't even have Cybertronian modes originally.

 

Love everything you said. Am still interrested in seeing the difference between Cybertrons civilization and its militias.
Something to make bots\cons stick out from normal Cybertronian society.
So theyre less 2Dish.

Giving Cybertron itself some character seems to be a challenge these days. The G1 toons played eerie Metroid sounding beeps and noises during Cyb scenes that made it seem like a place youd want to explore.

 

Because it's a prequel. Literally the simplest answer.

 

I'm calling Bumblebee the prequel to a new series of Knightverse movies. That's simple enough for me.

 

There's an Ultron quote somewhere about someone "using his own flesh against him"

 

The confusion that Travis Knight had to go through during the shoot of Bumblebee is probably what lead to no Megatron the movie. He first decided to include him in the opening sequence. But then the producers told him it was a prequel so he can't do that. Then he decided to include him in Hoover Dam. But this time Hasbro told him to remove that scene as they were wanting a reboot. So, we ended up with no Megatron at all. Most probably in the next film we will get to see him.

 

Technically the Cybertron opening scene were added after he filmed the scenes with Megatron in Hoover Dam, it was added when they decided to go into the reboot/requel/preboot/whatever route

 

Wow, Lorenzo really is an idiot. I can't believe we're still stuck with him as a producer. So sad.

 

I can't believe there are people who are quick to point to him to confirm their suspicions concerning whether or not Bumblebee is or is not a reboot, when he's that detached from the lore of Transformers in the first place.

 

So he was cut from the Hoover Dam scene because they decided to move away from Bayverse. But, the Cybertron scene was rushed and hence they failed to include a newly designed Megatron?

 

Are you still trying to connect this movie to 07 or are you confused

 

Pretty much.

We even heard of test screenings for the "Bayverse" cut of the film which had a scene of Megatron in Hoover Dam and this cut had no Cybertron scene, it started with Bee already on Earth being hunted down by Sector 7 (and we can see this scene with Bumblebee in the home release of the film which gives credibility to the test screening) and we had concept art for scenes with Megatron being studied in Hoover Dam which dates back to 2017.

The Cybertron scene was a last minute decision when they decided to move away from the Bayverse, even the little concept art we got to see of the Cybertron scene are dated as being from 2018, which shows this was a last minute scene and was never planned from the start, they even said due to how little production time they had left, they had to reuse and retool already existing models than create brand new ones, Cliffjumper, Wheeljack and Brawn were built by using Bee's CGI model, Arcee was built using Shatter CGI model, Ratchet and Ironhide were built using Prime's CGI model (who was in the Bayverse cut of the film in his G1 form, whose only scene was when Charlie and Bee hear his message), Starscream and the Seekers were built from Blitzwing CGI model, Soundwave, Ravage and Shockwave were the only new models, this shows us too that the Cybertron scene was a last minute addition if they had to re-use the other characters CGI designs, because if it was planned from the start, they had plenty of time to build brand new CGI models rather than retooling existing ones

 

It could be that I am confused with the whole Bayverse.

 

So the Optimus in Bee is his Cybertronian form no matter what continuity they decide to go with? That’s pretty cool.

 

Pretty much