KFC P-14 Raijin (Ginrai) P-15 Grand Raijin (Super Ginrai Trailer) and P-16 Raiju (God Bomber)

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  1. Digger

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    Okay then. :cool: 
     
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    Actually I do prefer your version! :lol 
     
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    Hah. Nice. I do prefer the original though.
     
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    Agree. PMOP is always a bulk figure in my opinion.
     
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    Not Ginrai though. Which is my reasoning. But I see why. He’s a hefty around super boss. And that’s cool.
     
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    Agreed, I prefer Super Ginrai to be a bit more lean and mean. Fan's Hobby's looks like a good representation of a beefy PM prime.
     
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    Right yeah. And I dig that super robot vibe of they have power but they’re just tall and lean. Bruce Lee style.
     
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    is the scale of these guys right? seems to me that Grand Raijin and Raiju should be about the size of Victory Leo but looks like they are much bigger
     
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    No, that's why we have the Fans Hobby version. I have and like that version but to me it is more a PMOP comics version and it is badly proportioned that will not look as good with Godbomber. I like this version because the leg proportions and chest length will work well with Godbomber to give a well proportioned God Ginrai.
     
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    nah you turned him into a fat boy now..where are the abs...the waist piece is much more pronounced too...Reminds me of the Fanhobby one which i hated cause it looks so fat
     
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    The only problem I have with fans hobby is it's just too deep from front to back. The truck sticks out super far in the front and even further in the back. Wish they could've done some clever engineering to compress his legs or something so he wasn't so damned thicc.
     
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    I've been trying to figure out why I feel like the proportions on the God Ginrai combined mode are off, and yet I don't feel the same way about the combined-with-trailer-only mode. I think I've finally figured it out: The windows on God Ginrai's chest. They're so much smaller proportionally that they make the rest of his torso feel stretched, making him seem like a Long Boi even though nothing has actually changed.

    I did a quick and dirty 1,000 hours in MSPaint to stretch the windows down so they're bigger, and it kinda helps, but it introduces problems of its own, and since I've not seen anyone else mention this I may be alone and just have to get used to it.

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    Imo that big ball joint in the middle is more of an issue than the windows
     
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    That's a problem, just not the one I'm talking about.
     
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    Changing the windows would distort the front of godbombers alt mode. They'd need a faux chest plate to portray larger windows. Or hinged panels to open up the windows more somehow.
     
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    I said it was a very very hasty edit I made. Of course it doesn't look good. But many other God Bombers have bigger windows without it looking terrible once an actual designer and not just me gets involved. Ah well, it's not worth arguing about.
     
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    Actually, the windows as is are more or less cartoon accurate. God Ginrai never had vertically long windows in masterforce and the toy certainly didn't. It's probably your personal preferences that's making them stand out.

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    The mid section would need to taper in, creating some very defined obliques to be anime accurate. However since godbomber's "front" needs to stay a rough square shape, the midsection is more boxlike than the cartoon.
     
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    Okay.
     
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    So this goes to the crux of MP-24's scale, which was argued over quite a bit when he was released. Simba is scaled to MP Star Saber, but MP star saber himself is a bit undersized. KFC may be going off of the Masterforce scale chart, which shows Ginrai at 7M tall, vs. Megatron/Prime who are at 6M tall. Page 1 shows Raijin vs. MP megatron. Raijin is clearly taller, since he's doing a relatively wider A stance than MP 36, and yet is the same height.

    Accordingly, KFC then sized up Super/God Ginrai in proportion. At 42cm, this God Ginrai won't scale to KFC's own Simba/Star Saber...which I am ok with as all the Japanese leaders are combiner sized in the cartoons.

    As long as this means that KFC's promised MP Overlord is at least 42cm tall...I definitely have no problems with KFC God Ginrai being much taller than MP Star Saber/KFC Victory Leo