Ignore lists were invented for that type of trolling.

 

I'd kill for a platypus and Pikachu transformer.

 

Only if Pikachu transformed into Deadpool.

 

That would be the chase variant. X-force for SDCC.

 

Just a small disclaimer here. I do not work for Hasbro, Paramount, or know anyone in the studio or anyone in the Transformers \"inner circle.\"  I\'m just an average person with an opinion. Having said that:

I\"m sorry, but not everyone wants to go back to G1.  I\'m new to this board and an older fan. At 63 I came to know these characters and this franchise from the beginning through my niece (now 35) and my  2 grand-nieces (14 and 7) with the 2 younger ones learning about the beginning from syndicated stations, DVDs, etc. All 3 generations of us like Michael Bay\'s version much better. The G1 style was made for cartoons and that\'s where it should\'ve stayed.  Those robot designs looked ridiculous in Bumblebee as Michael Bay knew they would - and he was right.  Regarding vehicle mode from approx. 1969 to around 2005 the VW bug has been the face of the Herbie movies and every time I saw it in Bumblebee I had to stop myself from wondering what Herbie was doing in a Transformers movie.  The oldest grand-niece took one look at Bee in robot mode and said he looked like he needed a bra - and she was right too.  Then it hit me - we were watcing The Iron Giant in a Transformers suit and it showed.

As for the sequel thing, people need to take another look at the phrasing of the question about the sequel as far too many are getting that very, very wrong.  Lorenzo was asked if he was writing a script that PICKS UP WHERE TLK LEFT OFF and his answer was \"no.\"  However, that does not mean no script or no sequel. It just means exactly what it says - TLK\'s sequel DOES NOT PICK UP WHERE TLK LEFT OFF. 

Bumblebee was promoted as being the \"savior\" of the franchise, that more people wanted to see this kind of movie, etc . What ended up happening is that in all the most watched \"yardstick\" markets - the domestic box office, the China box office, and the general foreign box office - The Last Knight did better. The first solo films should\'ve been for Optimus Prime anyway -  he\'s been the core hero character for 35+ years and as popular as Bumblebee is as a character may be, he\'ll never take the top spot. 

I realize I\'m in the minority on this board but Michael Bay tells a far better story.  Bumblebee will never measure up - Michael Bay set the bar way too high.

 

 

tlk may have "done better" if you just look at box office earnings, but bumblebee didnt lose money in the long run and it had a significantly smaller budget, so ultimately in the long run paramount got more for their money with bumblebee than tlk

 

I'm not an "insider" but just from logic TLK didn't lose anything. Hasbro wanted to dissolve the partnership with HuaHua Media which is the Chinese company that partnered with them for the first 5 films. I heard the rumors of money changing hands but a buy-out after dissolution of a partnership is very common and that's all it would've been.

For anything to have been a loss it has to cost more to make than it sells for. TLK made $605.4 million so to be a loss it would've had to have cost over $705.4 million to make. Common sense shoots that down without any effort at all.

In the summer of 217 no movie did well except Wonder Woman and the scandals that were breaking in the news gave that film a boost.

No disrespect intended but I have to call you wrong on the "more for their money" thing, too. The comparison isn't cost/profit margin for BB compared to cost/profit for TLK. When you look solely at how many tickets were sold for each film world-wide TLK wins that. In a round-about way TLK would ultimately win the cost/profit issue,too, as more people want to see Bay's type of film. That has occurred to Paramount, also, as BB2 is reported to be having a more Bayverse tone to it.

No offense intended and I hope none taken. Just a different opinion here but still nice talking to you.

 

Bumblebee May Turn a Profit, But Transformers 5 Lost Over $100M

 

I don't believe this for the reasons I said in my last reply. Upon dissolution of the partnership with HuaHua money most likely changed hands but no one will ever convince me that TLK ended up costing over $705.4 million dollars and that's what would have to happen to consider it a loss. If it lost money they wouldn't be continuing the story and they are - the sequel is happening whether people can see it or not.

 

dont take this the wrong way, but im pretty sure the owner of viacom (and as a result paramount) would know if the film made or lost money, and he claims it lost money

 

If TLK wasnt such a colossal disaster, why was Bumblebee explicitly retooled to be LESS in continuity with it to the point of reboot? Hasbro is on record as not being happy with the direction of the films since AOE and you know who picked up the financial slack when HuaHua media left? Hasbro.

Just ask our inside guy @SilverOptimus - you are mistaken if you think TLK wasnt the greatest box office catastrophe in the past decade.

 

What sequel? This new story states there isn't a sequel happening.

 

There's something that has never been officially stated.

I've literally seen ZERO evidence that Hasbro officially was less happy with the direction the films went with in AoE than with the first three films. Just because Rik Alvarez's vision for a fourth film didn't come true doesn't mean Hasbro liked or disliked the later films more or less, because I guarantee every single one of the films ended up differently than what Hasbro wanted exactly.

I'm not saying there aren't individuals within Hasbro who preferred the earlier films, or vice versa, but Hasbro's a corporation of many individuals, not a single entity with a single, unified opinion. I'm sure Hasbro is full of people with vastly different opinions from each other, just like the fandom.

 

No...that was me paraphrasing something SilverOptimus said shortly after TLK, regarding Hasbro's position on the matter.

 

Ah, yes, that is exactly what Beast Wars was like...

Only a fool would find the idea of a platypus Transformer ridiculous, as it would in fact be extremely good.

 

Indeed. I fancy a gun that shoots eggs would be its main weapon.

 

His name shall be BEAKFREAK, and he shall be glorious.

 

Yes, YEEESSS!!!