New Kei Zama Death's Head series from Marvel

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  1. Prime Aspect

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    Didn't like him in G1, still don't like him today.
     
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    I agree for the most part although I thought the “body in question” was pretty good and the “what if” story line as well
    Most of his series took place in the Dragon’s Claws universe up until about issue 8 where he has another confrontation with the Doctor and gets misplaced in time or another dimension hard to tell sometimes
     
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    Who is Marvel advertising this to? The only people that are going to pick this up are old school Marvel Transformer comic fans. And yes, I will pick this book up.... but I wish they would just give the rights to Hasbro. Marvel won't make any money off this series or the character. He'll never do shit in the Marvel universe. I'd love to see him again hunting and fighting Cybertronions.
     
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    You never know, granted. BAFs for characters who are just large and not HUGE seem to be determined more by how well they think the stock figure will sell - eg, see: the GOTG2 line where Mantis was the BAF.
     
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    he was already in a couple issues of iron man....he fits in the cosmic landscape of the marvel universe
    i get that.....but look at him. he'll be a thanos sized figure with all those weapons and shield. that's got BAF written all over it.

    i could see it being a store exclusive or pulse exclusive though. but that only seems possible if marvel can justify his fanbase. like is it worth it enough to do a run like that or just put out a BAF of him. or both...i'm just speculating but i'm leaning more to BAF.
     
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    To be fair, we've gotten weirder or more obscure Marvel Legends figures (and BAFs even).

    But I'd really, really, really prefer one that homages his first appearances, with the thick boots and green vest.

    All this talk about BAFs reminds me of the good old days, when BAFs were actually giants. :( 

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    Kinda wish they pulled out Furman for this (poor guy is stuck on the okay Robotech ongoing), but I am game.
     
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    What Size do you think he'll be? He's pretty much bog standard hero size now. Wouldn't be any bigger than the DH2 figure. as for weapons, you'd probably only get 2 interchangeable's and maaaybe a shield.

    What If Death's Head had lived, was written by Furman as well.

    Who were they advertising Guardians of the Galaxy to back in 2008? Just old school Marvel fans I suppose...

    Stranger things have happened than bringing up an obscure character into popularity.
     
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    interchangeable hand, axe, spiked mace, spear, shield, and a gun. though i can see them dropping the spear. the rest are pretty much standard when it comes to him.

    i figure he'll be comic thanos/juggernaut sized. so a bit taller but maybe with a bit more bulk than anything because of the armor. even if he's not that big he's got enough parts to spread out. i figure his weapons come with one figure that traditionally doesn't have weapons then his shield and his cape would count as another BAF part. lame but not unprecedented.

    i get none of you want this to be the option but it probably would be. i don't know how you can't conceive this would be the route they'd go with.
     
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    Hm. They're pairing him with Wiccan and Hulkling. Storyline: "Death's Head realizes he's not as good as he used to be."

    Marvel Comics Announces Death's Limited Series

    I... can't say that this excites me a bunch. Death's Head is the guy that quips dryly as he kills people with errant hot dog carts. People die with unflattering sound effects, such as "FUTCH" when said hot dog cart crushes their skulls.

    I agree with the general sentiment. Death's Head is best when he's full bore Gordon Gekko mercenary bastard with a dry sense of humor. That said, the premise is such that you could get a great comic in the hands of a really good writer.
     
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    It's almost pointless discussing his scale I suppose as you could point to all different sizes, however he's pretty much depicted as adult male human size in the MCU. He's not even as big as DH2.

    You'd get hand, Mace and either axe or gun. like I said, maybe a shield. Taskmaster came with gun, sword, shield and cape. I get where you're coming from and I'm assuming most of it your perceived size, however I can easily see him as a stand alone figure. One that I could leave mint in box next to the DH2 box :) 

    Yeah, I'm not overly happy with the premise either. Maybe they script it as if he's having a mid-life crisis or something, however no one does it better than Death's Head. He's always so confident in his ability, sometimes overly so.

    Fingers crossed though that they treat his character well and the buzz generates something more out of it.
     
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    Script be damned! With crunchy Kei Zama on the inside covered in a sweet Nick Roche outer coating, I'm definitely putting this tasty treat on my pull list.
     
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    You said it pal
     
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    Eeeyup. Just got back from editing my post and I bet soon I'm gonna be accused of eating comic books.
     
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    Yeah, I guess we'll have to see. I used to like Wiccan and Hulkling back in Heinberg and Cheung's Young Avengers, though lately Marvel's track record of writing LGBT characters as compelling characters hasn't been the best (looking at you, Sina Grace's Iceman). As far as writing goes, hopefully Howard will end up less like Gabby Riviera and more like Eve Ewing, whose Iron Heart has turned out to be pretty solid from what I've read of it so far.
     
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    It's not the LGBT thing that concerns me, so much as the generation gap. It could be any young persons/young adult couple, gender/preferences notwithstanding. As others have pointed out, Death's Head is kind of an immutable character, most fun because he's the constant and doesn't change. While I'm very much OK with changing characters to suit different audiences as they evolve (I was a fan of at least the first 2/3rds of IDW's stuff), changing any aspect of good old Death's Head gets into that space where I clench my teeth and go "Eeeeeeeehhhhh" because Death's Head IS his attitude to me. They could make him a toaster with a bazooka duct taped to the side and I'd still be fine as long as he remained the same.

    In my opinion, Death's Head is a character of his time. He's a Marvel expy of all the glorious, late 80's style dark-goofy 2000AD ultraviolence. People died in horrible, horrible, and most importantly hilarious ways. He's never quite "fit" in with Marvel in general, even contemporaneous to when his book ran. His most noted mainstream appearances was with old school fourth-wall breaking She Hulk, for example - and he didn't even kill anybody in that book if I recall correctly.

    The premise bugs me because it's already softening his edges off the cuff. He's "not as good as he used to be". OK, fine, but now you're saddling him with two teenagers in a relationship? Even Spratt was something the original books used sparingly because he could occasionally come off as too much of an annoying wunderkind. For me, exploring that huge generation gap (20+ years!) while Death's Head behaves in his usual abrasively wanton fashion while spouting his usual 80's action style dry British one-liners could be great. I just hope they do the guy justice instead of engaging in a misfired nostalgia grab.
     
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    he gets hired to steal the tardis and given a time machine backpack but he gets set up by the person who hired him the backpack was also a nuclear bomb designed to blow the tardis up which the doctor helps him remove and then after they escape the blast he leaves deathshead ontop of the fantastic 4's hq in 1989 has a fight with with the fantastic 4 and then ends up helping them with something so they help dh at the end by sending him back home to his own time via their own time machine , as he's going he's asked if he is what a super hero is in the future and he tells them he is a bounty hunter and he kills people for a living so reed richards tries to stop the sequence only to send deathshead to 2020 where dh ends up having a fight with ironman after they both get set up :lol 
     
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    Oh man, your comment really makes me wish this comic would be about Death's Head being his usual interstellar bounty hounter (sorry, freelance peace-keeping agent) self. With how successfull GoTG and Thor: Ragnarok were, you'd think Marvel'd be all over something like that. I guess we'll see...
     
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    If Hasbro ever get around to making a Death's Head figure I think it's unlikely that he'll be a BAF.

    When Hasbro released the 3.75" Death's Head figure they used the existing 3.75" Colossus figure as a base. When they released the 6" Death's Head II figure they used the Warlock wave Colossus figure as a base. So it seems reasonable to assume that if they ever make a Death's Head 6" figure they'll use a 6" Colossus figure as the base. And as luck would have it, there's a new Colossus figure being released in a couple of months time (as part of a 2 pack with Juggernaut) so a base figure already exists if Hasbro decide in the near future that they want to make a 6" Death's Head...

    But apparently Hasbro can't just take an existing body and 'convert' it into a BAF by splitting up the parts. When Death's Head II was first unveiled at NYCC 2016 people wrongly thought he was going to be the BAF for an upcoming wave. When one of the Hasbro reps was asked to confirm if this was the case they said it wasn't - and that they would have had to completely retool the existing mould if they wanted to use it as a BAF, which wouldn't have been cost effective.

    So if Hasbro ever do make a Marvel Legends Death's Head I think it's likely that he'll be a retool of Colossus - and consequently he won't be a BAF.