So Tfwiki has one order listed and IMDB has another. Can anyone shed light on why the difference and what the correct order to view them in is? The Transformers (cartoon) - Transformers Wiki "The Transformers" (1984) - Episode list
The problem arises from the increased continuity between episodes in season 3. The "production order", the order in which the episodes were made, does not put them in chronological story order, and neither does the DIFFERENT order in which they were aired on television. No two DVD releases have presented the season 3 episodes in the same order, always trying to either them in a correct story order and moving around more than is necessary. Without checking too thoroughly, I would guess IMDB has them in airdate order. The order shown on TFWiki, on the other hand, is the "production order", which you can BASICALLY watch them in, if you make these modifications: After watching "Forever Is a Long Time Coming," watch "Fight or Flee" and "Thief in the Night". Then pick up where you left off with "Starscream's Ghost". After watching "Carnage in C-Minor", watch "The Big Broadcast of 2006", then pick up where you left off with "The Quintesson Journal". And that's it! This is the order the episodes were released in by Metrodome in the UK, and is the correct chronological story order for the season, made with the fewest number of move-arounds.
Sweet, thanks! I just got done watching "Dark Awakening". I must say it was a really good episode, but it made me laugh when Daniel was getting all freaked out by robotic corpses. I was waiting for scooby-doo to run through the scene with a sandwich in his mouth.
One thing that is annoying with the Shout DVD set, is that some of their episodes are mis-titled and positioned. Meaning, you would have episode A listed in place of episode C, and episode C listed in place of episode B. Makes it somewhat confusing when your watching the DVDs and trying to follow along with what's printed on the back of their cover.
yeah, i was disappointed in that as well. also, i tried to rip them to itunes and it didn't work. either an itunes patch prevents ripping dvds to ipod format or the shout discs have some kind of lock on them. an unrelated, but nonetheless frustrating aspect of the shout dvds =P
Isn't there a problem with the first appearance of the Terrorcons, too? When I was younger, I remember the Technobots already being there when the Quints say they just built the Terrorcons, yet the Terrorcons are there in the creation of the Technobots.
You can only rip music from CD's with Itunes, not movies or TV shows from DVD's. You would need special software that is designed for ripping ANY video from DVD's. Ones found in stores will not rip copy-righted videos, but there is software available on line for doing just that.
That's an airdate problem, where "Money is Everything" aired before "Grimlock's New Brain". In production order, the episodes fall in the right order.
Yeah I did. Something called handbreak. Or handbrake. The picture and sound come out distorted on my ipod. The set I have from China works fine, although I should try ripping one now to see if it is indeed a patch update from itunes.
I don't know anything about handbrake, but you might want to try your compression ratio and settings. It might not have been set for Ipod. There are some rippers that have settings for various formats and those need to be checked. I used something called Applesoft DVD Ripper for Mac and it worked great for a while. Only problem is when I try and play my Ipod movies on my TV with the proper adaptors, on the TV is when it looked not distorted, but more pixelated. You might also want to check wide-screen versus normal screen. I think it's 6x7 to the new 16x9 or something? The fact that they mislabeled some of the episodes, I found the Shout DVD set awesome! The box is pretty cool, and well worth having in any Transformers collection. I think if you try and watch it in chronological "Makes sense" order, you'd probably get a headache.
This Metrodome set wouldn't happen to be the one that you were helping them out with by any chance would it?
Here's the order I'm going with...I'll let you know if I get a headache. 1-5 Five Faces of Darkness 6 Killing Jar 7 Chaos 8 Dark Awakening 9 Forever Is a Long Time Coming 10 Fight or Flee 11 Thief in the Night 12 Starscream's Ghost 13 Surprise Party 14 Madman's Paradise 15 Midnight Planet 16 Ghost in the Machine 17 Webworld 18 Carnage in C major 19 The Big Broadcast of 2006 20 The Quintesson Journal 21 The Ultimate Weapon 22 Dweller in the Depths 23 Only Human 24 Grimlock's New Brain 25 Money is Everything 26 Call of the Primitives 27 The Face of the Nijika 28 The Burden Hardest to Bear 29-30 The Return of Optimus Prime
RFLMAO at the African country named car-bomb-ya in the episode "Thief in the Night". Now who was looking for this to make sense? Next week the Autobots travel to the asian country of make-toys-cheap-istan.
I'm so sorry for the super-necro-post but I've been trying to figure this out for 5 days now... I have seasons 1,2,and 4 in mostly correct story chronological order (not "air date", and not "studio order"). Season 1 is just production order. Season 4 is just production order. I made the following changes to season 2 production order (not air date order) based on this post: "And for that, I always move "Aerial Assault" down the list so it comes after "Starscream's Brigade" and "The Revenge of Bruticus." That way the Combaticons don't appear before they're created. And "The Gambler" always follows "Child's Play."" I'm still trying to get the correct story chronological order for season 3, and I've been having a very difficult time... Going by what you have that I quoted above, is this what you are suggesting is the correct story-line order? Based on what you have posted, I wasn't sure if I have "The Ultimate Weapon" in the correct spot based on your recommendations... Transformers - S03e01 - The Five Faces Of Darkness (1) Transformers - S03e02 - The Five Faces Of Darkness (2) Transformers - S03e03 - The Five Faces Of Darkness (3) Transformers - S03e04 - The Five Faces Of Darkness (4) Transformers - S03e05 - The Five Faces Of Darkness (5) Transformers - S03e06 - The Killing Jar Transformers - S03e07 - Chaos-72 Transformers - S03e08 - Dark Awakening Transformers - S03e09 - Forever Is A Long Time Coming Transformers - S03e10 - Fight Or Flee Transformers - S03e11 - Thief In The Night Transformers - S03E12 - Starscream's Ghost Transformers - S03e13 - Surprise Party Transformers - S03e14 - Madman's Paradise Transformers - S03e15 - Nightmare Planet Transformers - S03E16 - Ghost in the Machine Transformers - S03e17 - Webworld Transformers - S03e18 - The Ultimate Weapon Transformers - S03e19 - Carnage In C-minor Transformers - S03e20 - The Big Broadcast Of 2006 Transformers - S03e21 - The Quintesson Journal Transformers - S03e22 - The Dweller In The Depths Transformers - S03e23 - Only Human Transformers - S03e24 - Grimlock's New Brain Transformers - S03e25 - Money Is Everything Transformers - S03e26 - Call Of The Primitives Transformers - S03e27 - The Face Of Nijika Transformers - S03e28 - The Burden Hardest To Bear Transformers - S03e29 - The Return Of Optimus Prime (1) Transformers - S03e30 - The Return Of Optimus Prime (2) I've read so many different posts about people saying you have to watch Dark Awakening before you watch Return of Optimus... But then I also read that when they originally aired the show, they had a special version of Dark Awakening that they did actually air before the return of optimus but it had an altered ending, so maybe I'll just leave that alone. I also read someone else say they always watch Ghost in the machine immediately after Starscream's Ghost, etc so I'll probably leave that alone as well since they are just people's preferences. I'm just trying to figure out the story chronological order! Chris, Please help and/or let me know if this is the correct order you were suggesting 9 years ago !!!
I'd move "The Ultimate Weapon" to after "The Quintesson Journal." It doesn't matter to the story, but that's where it goes in production-number order, and if you're looking to re-order the series by only moving the episodes that absolutely have to be moved, that's where it should go. Other than that, you're good! "Ghost in the Machine" picks up on the events of "Starscream's Ghost" but I don't think anything about it needs for it to be immediately afterward, and yeah, "The Return of Optimus Prime" does pick up from where "Dark Awakening" leaves off, but it obviously wasn't designed to be watched immediately afterward, they just re-aired it as promotion for the airing of RoOP (which took place several months after the rest of the season, because it was a late addition to the show in response to the negative reaction to Prime's death) with a new narration advertising it.
