Are you implying that the more complex designs were better?

 

Which interview was the SXSW interview? Was that the one where he originally said something about TLK sequel that got everything stirred up?

If he gave this interview first in Japan, then the next one where he mentioned TLK sequel and the Optimus and Bumblebee movie, and then the GameSpot interview where he flat out called it a reboot then it would make a little bit more sense. I say that because if you put it in that order it would seem like they weren’t sure at first and then decided it was a reboot. Please let me know if I got that order of interviews wrong lol, just because this is probably a low-key important detail.

 

Guess which ones kids have more fun with.

Hint: not the one that takes a zillion years to transform.

 

Of course I’m not serious as that’s something they’d never do, but the general transformer fan, like or hate bayverse, has got to be fed up with this guy. I know I am, and I hate to see such a doofus in charge of the movie franchise. And for him to act like he’s writing the scripts and coming up with the ideas is another kick to the nuts. What an idiot!

 

No wonder he has such a good relationship with Hasbro.

 

I'm not fed up with him, I just realize things are constantly changing and I'll wait and see what we get.
I do find it interesting how upset so many people here are getting over his unintentional trolling...

 

Huh. So what your saying is that this is the same interview that first mentioned the TLK sequel, just a full version? Meaning the interview about saying Bumblebee is a reboot is still the more recent one, correct? That'd give me a sigh of relief if that's the case...

 

So for TLK they use the awesome idea from the Prime tv show of having Unicron be Earth, but they don't realize that the show handled the rest of the Unicron/Earth crisis perfectly with the almost infinite number of smaller rock Unicrons instead of ONE planet sized robot to fight.

 

I'm reading the interview and I'm thinking 'Oh, fu**'!.

Let's see,

Please do fill in the blanks. Because we can't. Actually, no. Just let Knight carry on creating his own Transformers universe.

You (and possibly Paramount) basically want to keep the original 'continuity' (loose definition), no matter how mangled it gets. However badly screwed up it is, you want the audience to just pretend it makes sense.

No thanks. Bumblebee is it's own thing. Bring on the Knightverse.

Rules? Oh, you mean the giant explosions and toilet humour from the earlier movies. Or is it the really bad writing, and awful story and character development?

They were always possible. You just preferred the above.

Did you ever? Oh, dear.

It took him six movies to learn that? How long was this guy one of the guys in charge of the Transformers movies?

Man, the movies were f***** from the beginning.

You finally figured out that big explosions aren't always necessary. And the audience are willing enough to be patient enough to concentrate on 'one' character.

I guess as long as we aren't forced to strain ourselves, and there's an actual 'character' involved, it'll work out.

Is he actually trying to take credit for Knight's intentions?.

Which is why we usually prefer to treat the audience as though they're really immature toddlers/adolescents.

Lesson: Keep your 'concerns' to yourself. We may end up with more good movies that way.

And here's the thing. People do like watching 'characters'. But they have to be actual characters.

And it only took over a decade. But please, let someone else handle it.

Who put these guys in charge?

And I'll ignore the the finer points of the previous movie's continuity and throw in random junk that goes nowhere and is pretty much ignored or contradicted in the later ones.

As long as the folks in the audience switch their brains off.

You should have got someone who could handle it.

YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT SOMEONE WHO COULD HANDLE IT!.

(Looks at Knight). Yeah, okay. Like that guy. But couldn't you have done that years ago?

Should have listened to the other ones.

You're absolutely right, we did.

If someone else said this, I'd be reading this differently.....

Oh, another one of those 'It can't be done' things. And he is the Earth, apparently. How did that end up in the movie?

We understand perfectly.

In other words, don't get your hopes up. We may decide it can't be done.

But until then, it 'can't be done'. Oh, wait, it's like an Obi-Wan movie, so it really can't be done. Right?

Anyway, is anyone else stunned about the mentality involved in the making of the earlier movies? I mean it's been confirmed before, but it still makes you wonder how these people were chosen.


Also, it looks like Bonaventura is still trying to cram Bumblebee into the Bayverse. Or is it actually Paramount that's trying to get him to sell that?

NO F****** THANKS!

 

I'm Not sure which statement is dafter that there is much of a demand for a sequel to The Last Knight or that Optimus Prime as a lead character is impossible.

I know Hasbro & by Extension Paramount really really want to use Unicron some more - but a Sequel to the Last Knight seems like a financial risk to me - a big one at that. Maybe they've been harassing investors about it for the last year or so and are using the Bumblebee Movie to try to get it kicked over the line - as they may have already planned it out - you know the plan they abandoned as The Last Knight was an incoherant disaster.

 

How the FUCK is Bumblebee not a reboot? You CANNOT connect the two iterations at all. It can\'t be done, there are too many deviations in continuity, even for this series.

Bayverse: Bumblebee fought in WW2, Optimus Prime and the Autobots came to Earth in 2007 and learned english from the internet, and Sector 7 had knowledge of the Transformers, Megatron, and the Allspark for around 100 years.

Knightverse: Bumblebee, Optimus, and several other Autobots came to Earth in 1987 and spoke english before the internet was even created, and Sector 7 knew nothing about Transformers before Bumblebee landed on top on John Cena.

Also, NO ONE WANTS A FUCKING SEQUEL TO THE LAST KNIGHT! It was an absolutely vapid atrocity to cinema. Just don't.

 

If Hasbro doesn't give me a continuation of TLK then I will come down on the company like the hammer of Thor! And the thunder of my vengeance shall echo through their corridors like the gust of a thousand winds!!!

 

I do.. so does the guy above me. So there’s two  

 

This is exactly what I asked. If this interview is part of the other Japan interview, then that means the GameSpot one was the most recent one which cleared everything up. If that’s the case, then Lorenzo already called Bumblebee the reboot of the series.

Because if the order of these interviews is:

This interview
The other Japan interview
The Gamespot interview

Then things make A LOT more sense, because then it comes off as Lorenzo either clearing things up with Gamespot or he changed his mind.

 

blerg... You know what, for a good 6-8 months I was pretty excited about the transformers movie franchise. But at this point it's easier for me to not care again. Carry on Lorenzo, I'm out.

 

This man needs to be defeated.

 

We have plenty of diverse landscapes on Earth that would be adequate to film such movies at least for a Beast Wars and even a movie based on Nebulos.
Beast Wars took place on Earth. A Beast Wars movie that takes place on Earth or another planet would just utilize the same landscapes we have. And I think Nebulos could work easily enough as well. Its just a matter of picking and choosing real life locations for filming. On top of that I would never expect a Transformers movie that did not have human or human like characters. And if they keep the Transformer character count reasonably low per movie as they are expressing interest in doing I think such movies are possible if they chose to make them.

As you said Paramount isnt in a good position. And the audience can be real picky. Those would be the biggest problems.

 

Here’s how I would have written the TFW news item for this:

That kooky Lorenzo is at it again, and apparenly still doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground. In yet another interview with Japanese entertainment magazine The River, Lorenzo spews more self-centered and lost-moron-in-a-sea-of-wonder bullshit.

This time around the gems are:

• Bumblebee isn’t a reboot or a remake, it’s a spin off
• Continuity matters even less than before due to the “freedom” of a “new storytelling universe”.
• Lorenzo doesn’t know what to do in regard to continuing the main series of TF movies, but he is single-handedly writing a script for a sequel to The Last Knight.
• He claims that he’s learned a lot from Bumblebee, including the ground-breaking realization that audiences can follow and enjoy a story with emotion and warmth that focuses on a lead character. Also, a movie can be good even if it doesn’t have an explosion every few minutes.
• Making good movies is hard.

If you really want to waste your time reading the latest meaningless ramblings from Lorenzo, you can do so after the jump. We’d highly recommend you instead spend that time engaging with another human or a cherished pet.