This is basically what I wanted to add, but you did it better.

 

\"One is that we have the freedom to tell almost any story.\" Then why the hell can\'t you make an Optimus Prime Solo???

 

The better question is why is it ALWAYS Lorenzo getting interviewed? It really comes off like he is legitimately the only one even allowed to speak or maybe even the only producer on the damn series. He does more harm than good like this, especially since we are two years out minimum from the next film, so if he's trying to drum up hype he's certainly going about it the wrong way since the only people who even want a TLK sequel are those who apparently cant get over ONE story not having a totally clean ending. Or understand that Unicron would be "Rise of the Silver Surfer's Space Cloud Galactus" tier bullshit because with all the bitching Paramount does about CGI costs, Unicron was never actually going to happen and thinking otherwise is optimistic ignorance to how TLK in general didnt care about what AOE set up.

 

They just dont get it.

 

See now even channels like Screen Junkies and Collider are talking about the bs Lorenzo is saying and all the good will Bee built is falling apart sentence after sentence. This man is on a mission to burn this franchise to the ground.  

 

Can someone explain to me why this site continues to dedicate whole news reports to things Lorenzo says? It's abundantly clear that he has very little knowledge or authority directly related to the films, and 99 percent of everything he says is either speculation or talking out of his ass in a very typical rich Hollywood blowhard sort of way.

Unless he says something that is corroborated by another (more reputable) source, or is actually speaking from a position of authority or knowledge (not just an offhand Collider interview at SXSW), there is no reason to report on it. All this does is give his baseless speculations a false sense of credibility to readers who aren't aware of him and his schtick, which then stirs up all sorts of (often unpleasant) discourse over what Lorenzo said by people who have been fooled into thinking what he says is 100 percent true.

I mean, I get that the TF site wants to report on every bit of TF news, but come on. This is bottom-of-the-barrel tier and it just looks bad.

 

um. Literally everyone I've spoken to who saw this movie, loved this movie. Or deeply liked it, at least. You know what they didn't love? Bayhem. This guy is a fuuucking moron.

 

so does this quote basically confirm the other quote re the last knight sequel? I wonder if were going to get an announcement Bay is returning next lol.

 

Make it a prequel to the prequel focusing on the war with Cybertron, and I might be ok with that decision. 

 

Some people are gonna have a field day with this news, but I don't have to argue with them because TLK sequel isn't happening. Bonaventura has the same influence on this franchise now as Avi Arad has on the Spider-Man franchise. The film that's "following" TLK will be a Transformers team movie, but not a direct sequel, similar to Terminator 6 not being a sequel to Terminator: Genisys.

 

Because he was in Japan for the Bumblebee premiere and because Pet Sematary (a movie he prodcued) had its SXSW premiere, people are just going to ask him questions and he's going to reply.

 

(Sorry, this was the shortest one I could find.)

 

*raises hand*

Didn't care for it.

 

Bumblebee was pretty forgettable tbh I havent thought about it once since seeing it. There wasn't even that much hype from critics despite them for the most part liking it. They seemed to quickly move on from it.

 

You all know he’s just substituting the word “Bayhem” for “action” right? It’s not that serious.

 

Hasbro either you take the reigns hard or you take away the franchise from Paramount altogether.

 

And here's the thing Lorenzo you should understand, you could make the greatest film in the world. Like you could have the most lifelike mixture of CGI and practical effects, the absolute best writing and acting, action scenes that are perfectly shot and intense, the music be orgasmic and the editing be perfection and it basically makes triple the box office of all of James Cameron's movies combined... and you will still have people who didn't like the movie. Despite being an iconic film franchise, there are a good couple of people who don't like the original Star Wars films. There are also people who don't like Jurassic Park, the original Planet of the Apes, the original Halloween, etc.

Much like how you can name several bad films that have fans, you can also name several good films that have their detractors.

Here's the thing though about film people, most understand at the very least you can't pump the breaks despite a film being successful because a few people didn't like what you put out and that's especially if the criticism they have is something you actively worked to improve upon in this most recent film. Case in point, one of the biggest problems with the Bayverse films was what we called "Bayhem" and trust me, a lot of people don't use that term because it's just a cute way of describing how the movie has explosions and is directed by Michael Bay. For his detractors which are VERY plentiful, it instead becomes the description of the type of action we saw in the Michael Bay movies which are VERY incomprehensible in terms of action. They're filled with shaky cam, moments where the camera is locked on stuff other than the robots which is usually coupled with the shaky cam, EXCESSIVE explosions and because the Transformers in the early films had the very cluttered, overly busy design-aesthetic that eventually stopped with Bumblebee coupled with every Decepticon aside from the Constructicons in RotF being so monochrome in terms of color palette and always going for an insanely spiky, animalistic approach to the design? It was a NIGHTMARE to tell who was fighting who without memorizing every aspect of the design which even then doesn't help because they're often a blur and the camera's shaking, it's also so close while this is going on so you will want to vomit.

Now to be fair, the idea of a Bumblebee sequel with at least a bit more action is fine, I wouldn't mind seeing that and that's especially if they handle it well. However, I think what Lorenzo is saying is foolish because the thing is, Bumblebee is mostly loved and one of the reasons why it's loved is that it's a more intimate story with focus on characters and a heartfelt partnership with fights that actually are well shot with interesting choreography that makes you feel like you're watching these massive metal machines duking it out but also the fighting was enjoyable because you cared about the characters. The biggest issue with the previous Bay films is that they were all terribly shot action first with a story that seems to be there purely to lead you from one action scene to another without a shred of care for not only if the action was necessary but also escalation because Michael Bay is also terrible at subtlety, every action scene is shot like it has to be the biggest and the baddest and that means almost every fight scene unless it has an interesting moment or set-up to it is going to be pretty friggin' boring because every fight scene feels like they're trying to outdo both the fight scene it had before as well as the fight scenes in the previous movie to an absurd degree. Also there wasn't much in the way of variety.

That's what also made the fights in Bumblebee so cool. There was variety, we saw Bumblebee using his size to his advantage, martial arts, cases of transformations being incorporated into the fight and creative executions like when Bumblebee killed Blitzwing by jamming one of his missiles into his chest and detonating it with his own cannon or my personal favorite, how he killed Dropkick by wrapping a chain around him so that he shredded himself apart when he tried to transform. It was creative, it was fun and varied. When I hear that they're looking to have more "Bayhem" in the next film? I just picture us going backwards and we see uncreative, terribly shot fights with focus on EXCESSIVE brutality regardless of how much it fits the character and stuff that's not the Transformers as well as excessive explosions which leads me to again, repeat what I've said in every reply to Lorenzo's interviews even though I know full well he can't hear me.

Let. The Bayverse. Go.

Let it go, you have a new rebooted continuity now, you have a second chance to do what's right and not screw everything up. PLEASE take advantage of that, I am BEGGING you to take advantage of that to do better, to go for more of what we saw in the Bumblebee movie so that we can have a Transformers film franchise we can actually look forward to instead of ruining it with the nonsense that many people grew sick of with the previous universe and even if you don't go for it, I did hear about how you want to do Transformers 6 and to that I say "NO!".

You can't have your cake and eat it too, you can't just have a Transformers reboot series with a more cleaned up and streamlined aesthetic that's still pretty similar to the Bayverse stuff and then have the Bayverse continue, that's a monumentally stupid idea and considering the Bayverse has been known to just piss on continuity? I can actually use the argument that unless you establish to people very clearly these are two separate universes, you are going to confuse audiences. However, you can avoid having to do that by simply letting the Bayverse DIE!

 

I could see ratchet jazz Ironhide maybe being in here

This is Lorenzo saying bumblebee 2 will have more bayhem I'll wait till Hasbro says it before I believe it

 

Pages and pages of nerd rage from people who believed a toy pannel guy over a movie producer. Glad to see the reboot conspiracy is finally getting flushed down the toilet. I look foward to TLK sequel and a Bumblebee movie with more action and less story for people to nitpick. For those of you who dont like Bayverse, you dont have to go the theater. Stay home and read comic books, and let fans enjoy the movie. The only thing that needs a reboot is the TF fandom. Way too many haters and critics.

 

"I think the more human we can make these characters, the more people are going to like them.”

No shit Sherlock! That's why the comics are so good cos they treat the Cybertronians like actual frikkin people and not smashy-smashy explosion-makers for the kids to collect.