Just got back from seeing it. I honestly didn't know what to expect going in (and I was a bit nervous with all the controversy and whatnot), but I actually really enjoyed it! On a tonal level, it's somewhere between Guardians of the Galaxy and The Winter Soldier. You have the space adventure stuff, but you also have the more grounded stuff with the Shield agents and all. I'm always up for some space stuff, and I thought that mix worked great.

I actually thought Carol Danvers was a great character. Sure, she's less charismatic than someone like Tony or Thor, but don't mistake that for poor acting. The actress did a fantastic job portraying the character, who was written and directed very well. I actually liked how she was a bit more subdued than some of the other Marvel characters. Even then, she got a few great one-liners. I don't think Rey comparisons are fair. Honesty (and I might take flak for saying this), Carol is what Rey should have been. Similar situation with her discovering her past and all. Plus, this movie actually explains where she got her powers from, and why she's so powerful. I legitimately felt like I knew Carol better by the end of this movie than I knew Rey after two movies (in terms of abilities and personality). Count me in the camp of people who definitely think she can carry the series going forward.

I was sort of worried, considering she had to act opposite the ever-charming Samuel Jackson. Nick Fury was definitely a great part of the film, but I didn't think he stole attention from her. Considering Fury is one of my favorite Marvel characters, that should say a lot about how well Carol worked for me. While we're on the topic, I loved Nick Fury's role in this movie. This is probably the most we've seen of his character in a single movie, and I ate up ever second of it. The cat was amazing too!

Oh, and another thing I liked about this movie is that it actually had some neat science fiction concepts and themes present. Namely with the shape-shifting aliens. I won't go too into it because of spoilers, but you'll know what I'm talking about if you've seen the movie. That aspect felt very classic Star Trek. That's always a bit more interesting to me than "good guy punches super-powered villain". I was actually kind of relieved that this movie didn't really have a "big bad" in the usual sense (like an "evil Captain Marvel" or something).

I don't have a lot of complaints. There were a lot of attempts at humor, but I found most of them chuckle-worthy, not hysterical. I didn't think they were Marvel's best attempts at humor, but certainly not bad by any means. I laughed enough times to say it was a funny movie.

I wouldn't say this is one of my top Marvel movies, but it's a solid introduction for Carol, and a solid adventure to back it up. It obviously didn't hit the same peak as something like Guardians of the Galaxy (which was one of those once-in-a-lifetime movies for me), but I'd put it fairly high on my list. Maybe about a third of the way in. I actually vastly preferred it to both Thor: Ragnarok and Black Panther. This one definitely gets a solid recommendation from me, unless maybe you just don't care about Marvel movies. If you don't, this probably won't be the one that makes you a fan.

(By the way, I totally "accidentally" predicted the last credits scene when the credits started rolling. I was like "why didn't they do that joke, it was so obvious?" Then it actually happened! I was laughing hysterically!)

 

Not everyone thinks like that, though, there's dedicated videos on Youtube and discussions of reddit solely about how Thanos was in the right. It's... really messed up.

 

Why the heck is everybody discussing Thanos and unrelated stuff here?

Saw the film tonight, decent origin story, but I have questions.

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Ok, can somebody explain the inconsistency of the timeline for the Tesseract here? I mean this film explains how the Kree knew of it and how Thanos could be lead to Earth concerning it in some cases, but it opens up a huge question as to how Mar-Vell managed to get the Tesseract from SHIELD and Howard Stark who found the damn thing after the events of Captain America when Red Skull lost it in the bottom of the ocean. So why did they give it up? I could have sworn they were working to unlock its secrets since Howard brought it to their attention. How did this alien woman manage to get it away from SHIELD so that Fury doesn't even know about it until the end of this movie? I feel as if they skipped over a vital piece of information concerning how it went from Howard and studying it to unlock the secrets of infinite energy and some Kree Scientist hiding out on Earth to use it for her plan to help the Skrull. For that matter how did the Kree first hear that the Tesseract was even on Earth? I find it hard to believe Skull told anybody about it after he got trapped on that planet with the Soul Stone.

I guess that is all of my questions honestly, it's just a bit baffling, but I suppose inconsistencies like that are bound to show up once the film series lasts for so long.

Stan was The Man in this, loved the new Stan Centric LOGO and was that a reference to him actually making an appearance in Mallrats for real in his cameo here? I think Kevin Smith had him appear in that film if memory serves.

9/10.

 

Let's not bring in that outside drama to this site, thanks.

Reminder of Rule 10:

10. Keep Off-Site Drama Off This Site
If you had a disagreement or falling out with someone on another site or in real life, if you had a deal go sour on another website or whatever. If it happened elsewhere then don't bring it here. Leave your grievances at the door.

I'd say it's related in the grand scheme of the MCU (and the machinations of their villains) simply due to Captain Marvel's inevitable involvement in Avengers Endgame. Nick Fury did page her at the end of Infinity War, after all.

 

I feel you. It’s a testament to how well written the character is. Pretty sure you can find someone to support just about anything on those sites. I think the preponderance of people are smart enough to get the general gist of a Thanos. Perhaps having good intentions at the outset but completely lost and evil in practice. The best villians start out good and think they’re doing the right thing only for it to go horribly wrong.

 

I've often felt Carol needs a Lex Luthor-style antagonist who challenges her some way other than physically. With her power levels where they are, she can beat just about anybody in a fight, so maybe the conflict shouldn't be physical. Have somebody who can get into her head, or somebody she doesn't want to fight. Carol's hotheaded and usually tries to solve problems by punching them, it would be nice to have a villain that that approach just wouldn't work on.

 

Funny all the talk about MCU Thanos when 616 MU Tony Stark during Civil War held all those characteristics and actions (on a less grandiose scale).

 

Everyone hated 616 Civil War Tony Stark, though.

 

My morality doesn't really matter, the viewer has to decide if he's right. I think the hallmark of great writing is that it let's YOU decide what's right, that it provokes a deeper look at the character.

Honestly that would be exactly what MAKES him a tragic hero. I'm not speaking from the standpoint of Gamora being one of our heros. By Artistotle's standards , he is a tragic hero. The musical cues, magic stones and mind readers intonate this somber reflectiveness... ending with child Gamora asking "was it worth it?"

I'm not saying Thanos is more heroic than The Avengers, or necessarily heroic. They could reveal his motivation or find out he changed reality to fit his ideals and he actually failed to save Gamora's world.

All I'm saying is by literary definition, Thanos fits the tragic hero pattern laid out by Aristotle. Especially if he's the protagonist. I'm not judging your moral take, all those things are subjective.

 

I completely disagree. Comic Thanos wasn't a cardboard cutout, especially when Starlin wrote. From his introduction up through Infinity Gauntlet especially. Eventually nicely Starlin started to decline, but when he was at the top of his game he was great. The Thanos from that period is great.
And MCU Thanos is no kind of hero. Period. He's a monster.

 

If anything, Comic Thanos' reason for killing half the universe (being that there were more people currently alive than dead) makes more sense that MCU's. It couldn't be completely shattered by saying "uh, you do know that that will only set the population back by 40 years, right?" or "actually, you'll need to kill just over 99.8% of the population to make a significant difference".

 

To say nothing of the fact that with the Gauntlet, he could terraform uninhabitable planets, transport inhabitants of overpopulated planets to underpopulated planets, he could reignite dead stars and make new planets if he had to. "The universe is overpopulated." When 99.99999999+% of the universe is empty space? Please. Thanos kills because he wants to. Somewhere deep inside of him there has to be a rage, boiling. If they bring that out in Endgame, they might have a decent chance of saving the character for me.

 

Saw the movie twice. I want my very own Carol Danvers.

 

Thank you!!! Totally agree. I find it ridiculous that the smarter members of his obsidian order never pointed out how pointless his quest is. Comic Thanos is scary because he is obviously completely mad but smart and powerful - wanting to end all life to impress a cosmic concept personified. MCU Thanos wants to solve a problem the Enterprise could fix with some replicators and terraforming barren planets, tech that most aliens in Marvel already possess. He is willing to destroy half the universe because he was too lazy to look for possible realistic solutions. That's not crazy, that's stupid. He is like a grouchy old man who thinks there is nothing on the internet he diesn't already know from his lexicons and does not care for other ideas than his own.

 

Not the point though. 616 CW Tony shared the same mentality that MCU Thanos does, the ends justify the means.

 

Wasn't MCU Thanos confirmed by the filmmakers that he is a massive sociopath anyway and thus why he didn't just simply have gone with the other solutions to the supposed problem of the whole universe?

 

Regarding little fun bits, I did giggle when Carol was starting to really cut loose and she wound up staggering herself with the force of her blasts. Not often you actually see a bit of force output deal the opposite number  

 

I think some are missing the piece of the puzzle that gathering the Infinity Stones wasn't something he planned from the very beginning.

Pre-stone quest, he viewed his solution as something that was actually working. Hence telling Gamora her planet is now a paradise. So if the pre-guantlet plan was working, then why change it? It's extremely hard to self-correct when something one has been doing for untold decades has been successful.

 

Just finished this yesterday. I liked it. Wasn't bad, wasn't great. Like others said, middle of the pack for me. I found nothing bad about Brie Larson's acting like many critics have said. I only saw her in Kong and Scott Pilgrim.

A couple of questions (Maybe spoilers):

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1. When Danvers was shown the Black box, did she just take an antiquated device's word for what happened? I mean, a Skrull couldn't have tampered with it? At all? I can see it triggering her memories, but still.

2. Anyone know what the limits of Danvers' powers are? Just like the Power Cosmic I guess?

3. Just a comment, I found the whole Fury losing his eye scene kinda lame. I would have flipped out a hell of a lot more than that.