I’ll be honest, that was an interesting read, I had only read the bit about The Lion King. I truly do think there’s merit to Iger and Horn’s laissez faire approach, even with the notes they send. I don’t think notes is a bad thing, he said so himself that sometimes it’s little notes, sometimes it’s big notes like 15 minutes that need to be cut.

 

I think they should have left Sifo-Dyas the way he was. Originally Lucas had him as a pseudonym for Sidious, Sido-Dyas. And Sidious was pretending to be a Jedi and funded and ordered the Clone army himself. The Sifo-Dyas plot-point is explained in the Clone Wars but having it happen off screen just makes the plot more convoluted. Although maybe Sido-Dyas is a bit on the nose. I always thought Tyranus killed Sifo-Dyas myself impersonated him and ordered the army but I was trying to guess at what was going on...

 

The fact that we never really learn in the films what happened to Sifo Dias or why he wanted a clone army is one of the real actual flaws in the prequel trilogy. Strangely, the prequels' loudest critics rarely ever mention it.

 

Honestly when Jango said I was hired by a man Tyranus, and I knew Tyranus was Dooku, I just assumed he was also impersonating Sifo-Dyas as well. I never considered there was a 3rd player on the field. I never really cared about Kaminoans questioning anything, they are pretty clear they just are there to get paid.

 

IIRC, Sifo-Dyas was actually Sidious. In the original script, it was Sido-Dyas, but they thought it was too on the nose.

 

I like some just felt Sidious used that 'Sifo-Dyas' alternative, and the Kaminoans were too blinded by a big payday to really look into or confirm that this "Jedi" really did have the credentials to order an army for the Republic. I felt also that Obi-wan's mention that Sifo-Dyas had been killed, was him reaching for some sort of way to get around saying he had no idea who this guy was.

Though I did feel that Sidious put in the clone order, after seeing the 'field test' of what a battle droid army on Naboo would accomplish. However, it soon became apparent that while the droid armies would be willingly able to go into battle, cut off the control ship, and they all fall down. Wheras the clones could be made loyal and subservient, the downside was the time to grow them, let alone train them, feed and clothe them, etc. However they could accomplish more than technology in some cases.

 

Oh that's an easy fix right there: just don't watch anything after Return of the Jedi. If you just hold on that last image of them on Endor, then everything turned out a-ok for the galaxy.

 

I feel like the way the movie came out, we all thought Sifo Dias was an alias of Dooku's. Obi-Wan never heard of him so we're to presume he's not a real person.

 

The movies really did mess that up. However, I was under the impression that Obi Wan knew of him, seeing as how he told the Kamino people that he died.

 

Oh maybe you're right. It's been so long since I've seen the movie.

 

Also, Syfo-Diaz had this vision that the Republic would be engulfed in some sort of war. He had the foresight to call for the proposal to want an army. Of course this was called out as too outlandish by the council.

As for how he died, Tyrannus ordered his ship be shot down.

That is all just off hand info though. I wish that AOTC explained more.

 

Here are my random thoughts on the Clone Army. I think they should have been handled this way. Temuera Morrison / Commander Cody should have been an actual Republic soldier in the Galactic police force supporting the Jedi and he should have been a major character throughout the PT, close friends with Anakin and Obi-Wan. I think he should have been loyal to the Jedi and Republic and offered himself to be cloned as an act of necessity to save the Republic from the growing droid armies. That way Lucas could have used an actual branch of the Republic, that the audience liked, and had them balloon in power out of necessity to counter the Separatists. This would have mirrored the Military Industrial Complex and made a nice analogy for the audience as well as touching in the tragedy of Clone deaths, because they wouldn’t be simply a cloned mercenary.

Lucas could have had that faction of the government grow with Palpatine and have Anakin identify with them more, firstly because loves and fights with Temuera Morrison, but also because the Empire is growing and expanding and bringing peace to the galaxy and ending things like Slavery. The corruption of the police force into the Imperials could have mirrored Anakin’s corruption with good intent and also made better visual parallels to the OT. If we saw the peace keepers become more militarized into the imperials, the Jedi ways would seem outdated an ineffectual compared the immediacy and effectiveness of the Imperials. And made the Clone story sader.

On a separate note having a Cody or non-Jedi as an effective lead would draw the audience into the story more by having a person who wasn’t a superhero yet still has a ton of agency in the story, like a Han Solo for instance.

 

Yeah. It wasn't explained in the movie.

 

As far as I know it was explained in a comic, novel or something. *shrugs*

 

I think it was in The Clone Wars, although it may have been covered elsewhere too.

 

From the wookiepedia pertaining to Sifo-Dyas and his inclusion of the Clone Army.

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