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Alright, look, here's what you do. And I would only say it's ethical to do this AFTER you have bought a substantial number of booster packs from the wave so you are supporting the card game, I do NOT advocate doing this for everything.

What I've done is I bought about 40 packs from the first wave (10 boosters, then when I found out I liked the game I bought an additional box, along with the starter set & Metroplex set). Despite getting every battle card except 1 many times over, there were still several TFs that I didn't have, and it bothered me too. I love this game, but they really should include 2 or 3 TF cards per pack, there aren't enough battle cards to justify the 1-6 (or is it 1-7?) ratio of TF cards to battle cards.

So, those card protector cardboard inserts that come in the booster packs? Save 'em. All of the major TF cards have high-quality images online, download and crop 'em, save both sides as an image side-by-side (obviously changes will have to be made for the upcoming combiner and triple-changer cards). Print them out using a high-quality color printer at LETTER size. Then cut the images out of the paper and paste one on each side of a cardboard insert, as this is the EXACT size of a Transformer card. Voila, any stupid Super Rares can be yours. Yeah if there's official tournaments you're not going to be able to use 'em, but among friends I doubt anyone will care. It's how I "have" a Nemesis Prime card from Wave 1 and I didn't spend $80 to get one off ebay or open a thousand booster packs. Also made a Shockwave and a Skrapnel card this way, took like 10 minutes of my time.

 

This.

I'd love to buy some cards, but I feel like the rarity of the better cards will mean I end up spending a small fortune on mostly duplicates!  

It's not like I'm saving money with the "far-and-few" TF releases, so as much as I like these... yeah, no. There are literally better ways to waste money in the TF hobby (imo)!   Now if they did a table-top mini-character and card game... that might tempt me. I could actually use duplicate mini-figures to populate a toy Metroplex or some such.

 

If you just want the images sure, but I want the actual cards to play with. I can’t justify proxy cards because where do you draw the line?
I also agree there should be more than 1 character per pack. I would say that each pack should have 1 common and 1 other. It won’t happen but would be a big plus for the game for us non-gamers

 

One question because I know there are some cards that you can only use to upgrade jets and other cards that only work for Tanks... How does this work in relation to triple changers like Blitzwing? Will those upgrades only work while in that mode or if I upgrade his Tank mode with a tank card do I then get to transform to a jet and still have access to my tank upgrade?

I actually have the same question regarding some character switching between melee and ranged depending on what mode their in and some cards I have that can only be played on ranged characters. So far I've only been using them for characters who are ranged in both modes because I don't know what I'm suppose to do with the ranged upgrade if I flip to a melee mode.

 

Upgrade attachment requirements only need to be met when attaching them. Once on, they stay on and active regardless of what ever traits flipping the character gains/loses.

 

You draw the line when it comes to if you're supporting the game or not. If you buy only 4 booster packs and are like, "darn, I didn't get the ones I wanted, I'll make the rest", then no, that's wrong. But for Rise of the Combiners, I am buying a full box-- 30 boosters. This should be more than enough-- I am plunking down a full Benjamin for the boosters, and I'm going to get the Devastator set as well (which is how all combiners should be packaged, IMO). I will have enough battle cards to build multiple decks, and unlike most card games where the whole point is that you can't tell one card from another, you lay out your TF cards at the very beginning. You don't need to "hide" them, so there are no disadvantages to making a couple of TF cards of your own if you want them and they're rare or whatnot.

Obviously, your money/hobby, you do what you want. I'm just laying out an easy fix for your problem-- if you follow my instructions, it's not like I'm just hand-writing Nemesis Prime's stats down on a piece of paper. Once you make them they are the EXACT size, and nearly the same thickness, of the TF cards-- the only differences are the corners aren't rounded and one side isn't foil. It fits perfectly in a deck with "real" cards, you can carry them around with you easily, and the like.

But, I mean, especially with the Rise of the Combiners, this whole annoying bit with not getting the ones you want in the first set is going to be OBNOXIOUSLY multiplied. You could spend plenty of money and end up with 4/5 Predacons, 3/5 Aerialbots, 4/6 Optimus Maximus components, etc, and combiner components are not anywhere NEAR as good if you don't have all of them to combine. And screw it, if that's the case and I want an Optimus Maximus deck, I've spent enough where I feel justified making the remaining two. It also helps with budgeting-- "I'm spending $120 on Wave 2, there, I've set that aside", and don't have to worry about "just one more booster to get that one I want" or spending ridiculous amounts on eBay.

 

With the toys, Hasbro should include a plaing card with bio/ tech spec, which may be played competitively in such a game.

But they won\'t. Why? Because the people running Hasbro are EFFING MORONS.

They did include cards for a while, that was good - but on the back? PRINTED black and red shapes which amounted to nothing. Why? Hasbro are morons. Could there be tech specs? Yes. Could the be used in a card game? Yes. 

Why are they not? 

Because they would sell like hotcakes, and hasbro has a commitment to imbicilic decisions.

 

They need to start releasing packs that just have characters cards in them for those of us who just want to collect the cards.

 

On the latest podcast, Drew neither confirmed nor denied that this is in discussion

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like the increased number of rares/super rares this time around given how stingy the distribution was in Wave 1.

I opened just about 3 boxes for Wave 1 (including random blind pack store buys) and never pulled a SRT and had to go out and buy individual rares I was missing (because I'm a completionist)

I now remember why I tend to avoid playing "Collectible Card Games" because the collectible part gets too pricey and with the "card game" part (or any game for that matter), you have a group of people that take it way to seriously and ultimately come across as "elitist" which sucks the fun out playing when your "casual"

 

I'm not sure how you intended but I'm not trying to start anything. I love collecting the game and have bought more than enough of wave 1 and have 3 boxes on preorder for wave 2. I am also not opposed to making cards for personal use if its for fun play but that's it, not competitive. I'm just more upset about having to many rares from a collecting standpoint. I don't mind a few but with the ratio, of 1/72 for the 4 in wave 2, you would need to open 288 packs, or almost 10 boxes.
I know no one is going to open 10 boxes and buying single cards for whatever the cost is a better option. I'm just venting more that anything

 

It's just proxying, I don't think that's a big deal.

 

I didn't want to get into this game precisely because of these SRT shenanigans. With the first set being only 2, and 1 of them a character I can get elsewhere I didn't mind so much. 4 SRTs with 3 of them being major characters without alternates (so far) is awful.

 

I'm right there with you, we collect/play/buy the same way.

 

Who in their right mind would fold these cards?

 

Look a Pokémon, now they have 20+ super rare cards per set. In boosters where only 1 rare can appear and there are totals of over 60 rates in a set (including the aforementioned super rates) and not counting the reverse holo variants of each!

 

Not trying to start anything either-- just further clarifying my position/practices, that's all.

 

That's more awful, but doesn't detract from this awful.

 

Several who don't have that very deep "must keep as pristine condition as possible" mentality concerning cards (<-- I fit into this category  )