Avengers (4): Endgame - Movie Discussion

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  1. Rusty24

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    Fair but Groot is considered sentient. I was more referring to the trees and other flora in Wakanda that seemed unaffected while all the people dusted.
     
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    I don't think the "half of all life in the galaxy" was overly specific, and also probably isn't spead equally among divisions among the kingdoms, species, etc. So for every tree that survived in Wakanda, there could have been a cockroach or ant that died in its place. Also check this out. There are a lot of recent studies about plant being sentient.
     
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    That was sad.

    But the trailers are fixed to show only the first part of the film, so I'm guessing the tone will change.

    The newspapers asking what will happen is curious, considering the MCU Avengers were getting roasted in the news over Sokovia and Ultron. Anyway it'll be interesting to see the impact Thanos's snap had on Earth and the universe itself.
     
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    In the comic plants seemed to be fine but animals like livestock were definitely effected.
     
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    There are 7 & 1/2 billion people on Earth. If say half were suddenly dusted do you really think the world would fall apart? Would Baseball be over? Would there just be abandoned cars everywhere and dead cities with almost 4 billion people left? Part me thinks we would just keep on the way we are after some amount of mourning time and in 10 years it would just be a distant memory the way we put most tragedies behind us.

    But I can also see the markets collapsing, local government and even some countries falling apart. If that happens does anyone keep going to work to make a paycheck when grocery stores are empty, any kind of goods stop being produced, services like sanitation, fire departments, police, etc end. Would any keep paying their bills. Would money be worth anything or would there be insane inflation? I think smaller more organized and self sustaining Countries would stand a chance especially with smaller governments or Monarchy's.

    Which do you think would really happen. World crumbles or skips a beat and keeps on ticking?
     
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    Well, it's a bigger disaster than any zombie apocalypse movie and they usually show civilization falling apart in a matter of weeks. Days even if The Walking Dead is anything to go by. ;) 

    This was half the world gone in an instant. Could we get over something like that?
     
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    That right there is why in the end Thanos is just a grade A self rightious idiot. He pretty much made the one problem he was trying to fix even worse.
     
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    Wasn't his life's goal changed for the MCU? I believe in the comics, he wanted to kill off half the universe just to impress the female personification of Death. At least his MCU character's goals sound idealistic if just a bit insane.
     
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    He was charged by Lady Death herself to cull half the life from the universe, but he thought he could impress her by doing it in one go with the Infinity Gems. He did try the same "overpopulation" BS on Silver Surfer, but it was a little bit clearer there that he didn't believe a word of it.
     
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    He definitely comes off a bit more MAD in the comics.

    Whereas his MCU counterpart is a much more callous individual.
     
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    Their psychoses are certainly different. Comic Thanos is basically an incel with resources, movie Thanos is more of a self-deluded zealot.
     
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    It's "movie character logic"... in the real universe it would cause more problems than the one it was intended to solve

    * Most people would likely suffer severe mourning and depression at the sudden disappearance of half the people they knew. Even the ones they didn't like.

    * Indiscriminate removal of population doesn't account for "usefulness to the population". How are the survivors expected to survive very long themselves if they get sick and their doctor was dusted? What are they going to eat if the farmers that supplied their food chain disappeared? You asked about people in emergency services still going to work - what if the police all disappeared but the criminally inclined didn't?

    * The film itself showed the potential implications for survivors - how many vehicles crashed, killing additional people in conventional ways beyond the 50/50 split because the operator disintegrated?
     
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    Thanos’ idea of wiping half the population was that those left would use their time wisely and not make the same mistakes that the previous generations did.

    Though this was from MCU Thanos’ non-canon origin novel.
     
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    That only works if he tells people that's what's going on. If no one knows or understands the motive, no one is going to act according to it and they'll just rely into "how to survive" instinct; that's how we ended up in the dusting scenario to begin with. Oddly, I was looking into this for other reasons earlier tonight, and it only took us about 50 years to get from a population of ~3.7 billion to 7.7 billion on Earth... I think it would be fair to think that other civilisations at similar technological level to us would repopulate that quickly.
     
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    And in the book he did just that. He explained his whole plan to Titans people, and they all were just appalled. He was subsequently exiled for it.

    He eventually arose his army after some hardship, and started by going planet to planet, with the same proposal. Each time, he was refused. So in anger, he had the Chitauri wipe out each world.

    Afterward, he decided that if they would not listen, he would force them to. Therefore he began his established pattern of wiping out half of a planets population. Eventually, he learned about the Infinity Stones, and we know the rest.
     
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    Seems we're into "we gotta rely on supplemental to really get the idea" territory. That's a losing argument everytime.
     
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    I don't know if it's been pointed out before, but tonight I was watching Age of Ultron (in leadup to seeing Black Panther later this week in theaters), and I noticed that the Iron Legion have the same design cues that the leaked Endgame Avenger armor. has White and dark interplay on the designs, with the white breastplate with the red A in the corner, starfleet style. I don't think it really means anything other then a design continuity, but figured I'd mention it.
     
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    You all gotta understand that more than half the universe died when Thanos snapped it. Anyone that disappeared who was at the wheel of a vehicle or operating dangerous machinery or in the process of saving another life or stopping something that could lead to a disaster probably caused some additional deaths due to their sudden absence.

    Rumor is...
    Hawkeye's kids die when their Mom vanishes while she's driving with them in the car. She disappears and the car crashes bad enough to kill the kids.

    Now add in all the folks who committed suicide. And all the kids left parent-less and starving. And anyone who got lost because their wilderness guide vanished. And anyone whose snapped doctor wasn't there to tell them they needed to get that potentially cancerous growth checked. And anyone stuck in a small town prison. And all those small isolated rural towns that were depending on that one truck driver to deliver the town's much needed medicine supplies or food. And so on and so on. Thanos did not think the full ramifications through. Only the immediate, quick, and downright LAZY solution. But he will get his comeuppance in due time. The Avengers will make damn sure of it.
     
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