Exactly these points. The guy is either in staunch denial or he really does not understand his own movie.

 

This guy is full of shit.

 

As a fan of (some of) the bay movies I gotta say to Mr. Bonaventura: LET THAT SHIT GO.

Honestly he needs to be told to move on. Bumblebee set up a world with a ton of potential, and it really doesn’t need to be hampered by all the baggage of having to deal with WWII bullshit, the fallen having a machine in a pyramid, Megatron not being able to be used until 2007 (then dying several times), knights, etc. basically we need to be released from all the TLK bullshit especially, but it’s just too much at this point. The bay movies were hard to follow for any human, and SO MUCH HAPPENED. They need to continue with the potential set up by Bumblebee, but they can’t stay in the 80s forever or they’ll alienate the audience.

 

Disappointing. Now you need space bridge and bunch memory losses, confined to a frozen Megatron until 2007, another 25 years

 

Huh, interesting. I didn't even think about it, but it was set up in the opening that the Autobots were going to regroup. I guess it only makes sense that would happen in the end. I definitely get what they were going for, and I'd say it was successful. If they want to keep it as a prequel, they can just say that Bumblebee stays behind to search Earth while the rest of the Autobots search the rest of the solar system/galaxy for the Allspark.

And people really need to stop bashing Lorenzo di Bonaventura every time an interview with him pops up. I don't like everything he says (and I'm not trying to deny that he's been problematic in the past), but I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for the guy. I'm all for criticizing him if he says something outrageous, but everything I see here is fine. I actually find it very interesting.

Like it or not, the decision to reboot is up to them. They never said it was a reboot. Until July or August, the movie was always assumed to be a prequel. I kept saying we should assume it's a prequel until we hear confirmation otherwise, but everyone had already convinced themselves it was a reboot. I'm not saying you can't want it to be a reboot, but don't act like Lorenzo is an idiot for saying it's a prequel. That was the plan from the beginning, after all.

 

Maybe there is a way to reconsile the WWll event into the Bee movie? Maybe Bee just forgot about that or maybe it happens in between trips? Idk

 

To this point, I almost WANT to see them bring bayverse back. If it means putting paramount down so that Disney can finally buy them out and pull the plug on bays movies, I'll be perfectly fine with that. They can even fire lorenzo afterwards since he has mental issues of letting things go. The audience has finally matured since TLK so he ain\'t fooling anyone.


Let\'s just let Paramount do their thing, Reboot or not: lorenzo lost either way in advance.

 

Seeing his and Bays names in the credits made me cringe and I like the previous movies for what they are.

Regardless of how Bumblebee is doing in the box office the movie is really good and makes for an adequate starting point for a reboot.
At this point Hasbro should try and keep their brand from those who seek to maintain their now or soon to be defunct take on the franchise.

 

 

I agree. Like I said in my comment: I'm not his biggest fan; however, the dude coughs and just about everyone on here is calling him every foul name in existence.

 

That would require Prime losing his memory too as he never mentioned Earth was visited before. All he said is that he found a planet to regroup on as it's hidden. You would think it would be a critical point of discussion with Bumblebee if he had visited the planet before and stayed there for countless years.

 

Exactly! He's still a human being who should be treated as such. If anything, I think he tries way too hard to please many different groups, but that's no reason for the vitriol I see posted any time he's mentioned.

Yeah, people don't have to agree with him regarding everything or anything, but we're talking about big budget franchise films made to sell toys and tickets and not crimes against humanity and the existence of life on Earth.

 

What if the WWII "Bumble Bee" was someone else that shared a similar body type. Anyways, I think they should go with the reboot and drop Bonaventura and Bay, but keep Spielberg.

 

I find it amusing that any of you believe in (or even care about) continuity in a Transformers universe. Any transformers universe. You will all be happier when you just accept that the Transformers live in some weird, black-hole-infested universe where everything happens all at once while nothing happens at the same time, before and after it happened and didn\'t happen. Then just kick back with a beer and enjoy the visual crack.

 

Can we start a petition to have him removed?

 

And they never think of, oh, looking on the moon first? Dotm only works on the Autobots never going to the moon before they intercept shockwave in chernobyl.

Not to mention, again, Bb sets up S7 as never having encountered transformers. This can not happen if they have Megatron in their basement or The Allspark, since megatron has been there since the 1930s and Hoover dam exists to hide the allspark.

He is blatantly avoiding the opening scene contradicting much of bayformers, instead focusing on a scene nobody had issues with whatsoever. The whole question of bumblebee on earth 40+ years before bumblebee arrives on earth, not able to speak in the former and yet capable in the latter, is unanswered and I suspect never will.

2 + 2 = 5

That's the impression I'm getting here. That TLK could bomb so badly, that BB could blatantly shift design styles and the very setting to be different...and still believe lorenzo with him saying such an obviously hollow defense with no details?

Don't believe everything you hear just because it is what you want to hear is all I'm saying.

 

This tells me there is an internal disagreement (not a fight, but a disagreement) between the movie makers moving forward.

Some movie makers want to keep it part of the 07 movieveese others want to retcon it.

In the end unlike before it’s no longer his call it’s Hasbro’s.

 

It could be explained that the info Sir Edmund Burton had was false, or embellished. Maybe there were Transformers who fought during World War 2, but it wasn't specifically Bumblebee and Hot Rod. Maybe the flashback we saw was just Burton's idea of what happened. The poster he has was probably fake anyway, because they wouldn't create a propaganda poster for something that wasn't public info. Kind of like how Robin Hood and King Arthur are believed to have existed, but most of the stories about them are probably heavily embellished.

 

Remember, it's the same studio that gave the audience TLK. Anyone who thinks that they even care about movies falling in line one with another is having far too much hope at this point.

Also, further TF movies shouldn't be made by Paramount... So if they keep trying with Bayverse and the studio will go bankrupt? It's only for the best in the long run. Hasbro will find another movie studio, after some time.


It's not a matter IF reboot but WHEN it inevitably comes, so patience.

 

Yup.