Why did I have to drag what into this? Bay and his team said early on that Optimus needed to be a long nose truck to have enough mass to be a big bot. Most fans thought that was BS and I think the Bumblebee movie design proves that he didn't have to make the designs so overly complex. I liked the older movie Optimus but really, this is what I and most fans wanted from the start. Bay was wrong and this design is better. You don't need to be so defensive towards the older designs, lol. Did you design the Bay bots or something? XD

 

You call THAT trolling!? Seriously this fandom I swear...
Smh.

 

Nah man, all the Bumblebee movie designs are a cool throwback that the time period of the movie allows but you cannot do a modern day Transformers movie and have the characters look like they did in G1.

 

hope to see truck mode pics soon hope he has a place for a trailer

 

Funny because they kinda already did in Bumblebee, which is my point. This Optimus is very G1 and the film has Optimus with this design...sooo, no. This design proves you can do a very G1 design and have it look great on screen. Optimus didn't need to be as complex as the Bay designs started out as and neither did any of the other bot designs.

 

You didn't read what I wrote did you?

 

Yes, you said they couldn't do a modern day Transformers movie with G1 designs. They did though. Unless you mean they couldn't do a modern day setting...which is still wrong because then you'd have to think they don't still have flat nosed, cab over trucks in 2019? Somehow you're implying that because of the setting the robot modes used in Bumblebee wouldn't still work in 2019 as opposed to the 80's? XD That's some poor logic there and none of that is the reason the older Bay films redesigned the robots really. There's still enough Bay aesthetics in this Optimus that it's complex enough for an HD film released in 2018 but a more recognizable design that stands out against other bots so as to be recognizable on film AND still be Optimus Prime at a glance. This design can EASILY be adapted for a modern setting. This design is better and the director on Bumblebee and his team did an excellent job.

 

There it is.

 

I seriously have no idea what you're trying to say

 

Yeah, the G1 Bumblebee movie designs work so well that the movie has only made a little over its budget despite prominently displaying said designs in the trailer and TV spots. They so draw audience members in.

Seriously, these designs observably don't work any more than the ones from times past. Some here perceive them to work better, but that's because of our pro-G1 leaning and we clearly don't have the monetary power to fix the film's box office.

Also, Optimus's in-movie design is seriously ugly. The toy looks better. Even Arcee — whose design is far superior to the nonsense ROTF — looks damn creepy.

 

100% agree. Everyone is jumping on the hype train for this movie's designs, but I don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

Okay, no, I have heard the same kind of comment on Aquaman, Spiderman and even Marry Poppins. Anyone who think about it for more than 2 second realise what is going on. Too much big movie at the same time, movie that tend to have the same kind of audience (except maybe for Marry Poppins). With those unique conditions, we can't evalute the scces of those movie on the grossing of a single week, like we usually. In the end, I consider each of them will be a good to great commercial success, but over the span of several weeks, as many people only go see one movie a week. We have to have a longer term view of its grossing to have an actual good idea of its success.

At least we have the silver-lining effect that all this cluster-fuck of Blockbuster basically killed any chance of success for Holmes and Watson.

 

They're good, and look cool, but Optimues and the rest of the guys on Cybertron don't matter in this movie.

I see a lot of people praising the Cybertron designs and characters, but I don't see many people saying how great Shatter's or Blitzwing's design is. And they are great. I love Blitzwing's gas mask face, and how his torso is made from the cockpit only,

My favorite design from the movie is Bumblebee. It's a volkswagen beetle, but it's not the blocky, fat motherfucker from the G1 cartoon, he's round and adorable, he's got two antennae, and door wings, which is a nice design quirk considering he's called Bumbelbee. Style-wise he's more Prime cartoon than G1 cartoon.

 

yay no paint damage.

Also for box office watchers, Bumblebee film hasn't even been released in China yet.

 

I can’t with this thread.

Some people literally think that Optimus being an 80s truck is what sets this movie apart from the bay movies and not the writing, editing, acting, stories, etc and all the other million and a half things that go into making a movie. Then you cite the success of the movie (which is by far the lowest grossing TF movie) as “proof” that bay and everyone who likes anything about the previous movies is an idiot? Don’t insult me.

You need to realize that the general moviegoing public doesn’t notice or give a shit about most of the things you care so deeply about, like Optimus having a yellow arrow on his arms or being an 80s truck.

 

So let’s approach this Bay versus Knight thing logically. If we look at both (and all other things being equal) to finanici profitability than Bay wins hands down (looking at box office mojo as a source), but in terms of story telling and broad appeal Knight is clearly the better choice (Source being Rotton Tomatoes).

As I said above this is looking at them within the confines of everything being equal we are not taking account for the multitude of other factors (time of release, Transformers broad audience fatigue/diminishing returns, etc.)

So if I had to make a choice based only on these factors;

If I am a Investor: Bay
If I am a consumer: Knight

The designs would probably go for Knight due to it being part of “Broad appeal” I sourceed in Rotton Tomatoes

 

I still don't get the need for the engine greebles on his forearms. I know I'm in the minority, but it bugs me.

Also, the toy has duck feet.

 

That's because Paramount was dumb enough to put the sixth installment of a failing franchise in direct competition with Aquaman and Mary Poppins. I've been wondering what the F*** they were thinking on that for months. That move almost suggests they want the movie to fail.

 

No one says these designs will instantly bring in money. The reason why Bumblebee isn't making as much is because of the terrible films that have come before it, and also, it opened with two giant movies. Either way, if you compare the drop in box office from the first week to the second week with the TLK and Bumblebee, TLK had a drop of 65% whereas Bumblebee only dropped 3%, which means people are giving Bumblebee a chance. Not only is the critical score is better, so is the audience score.

Not saying the designs have to do with it, but might as well factor it in. Using more recognizable designs will work better in the long run for the word of mouth. Sure, the general audience does not care as much, but fans have a huge influence on how people think. Countless people on YouTube and social media have been praising the designs and that will affect what the masses think about these designs.

I disagree. It's the best of the movie Prime designs that have come so far—and I really liked the first trilogy design.

 

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