Damn that’s epic. But it makes me wonder how you could get a G1 megatron from it. Maybe this would work for shockwave if he was a railgun or something. Or heck have him be a jet again. But a cybertronian one. Or even a car. Not the first time.

 

It's refreshing to see a Transformers movie which is more good than bad.
Bumblebee is a miracle baby!!

 

The dam was shown in a wide shot

 

Hasbro is not concerned with Bayfans at all. They just sell toys of whatever is in demand. You can bet that them having free reign over the movie franchise to geewunize everything and bring it in line with the rest of teh BRAND UNIFICATION!!!(TM) would make Hasbro a very happy company.


The movies were always on Paramount.


Same like IDW was always on IDW.


This is the first movie where Hasbro shelled out their money for production too and they had more say in how the things were... And look how much more traditional TF it turned out to be. Granted, lot of it is Knight's influence - but to do so money were needed regardless.

 

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No. There were several geographical hints dropped in Bumblebee that say otherwise:
A)When Shatter & Dropkick landed, the human couple they encountered clearly were in Texas;
B)Shatter detects that B-127 is in California saying, "I've detected B-127's signal coming from the western end of this continent; even projecting a holographic globe from her arm showing this, right before she and Dropkick transform and roll out;
C)The next scene shows a dot-matrix printer which a young Seymour Simmons pulls paper out of, telling Agent Burns that they detected the aliens touching down in Texas;
D)There was also a few establishing shots clearly establishing that this S7 base is Hoover Dam: 1, a long shot of the dam; 2-a shot where S7 drives out of a tunnel at Hoover Dam, being led by Shatter and Dropkick;
E)Charlie clearly lives in the Brighton Falls section of San Francisco, furthermore geographically proving the point, especially when Charlie leaves for Hoover Dam with Bee & Memo: when they leave San Francisco, it's daytime; when they arrive at the S7 base in Nevada, it's nighttime, as the drivetime between the 2, is 9hrs and some change. . .

 

God, it’s already so obvious these aren’t the same fuckin continuities. Let the Bayverse DIE already.

 

It won’t without it you won’t have a Bumblebee movie in the first place

 

It's depicted or mentioned in multiple comics, novelizations, and even in a motion comic prequel (with Mark Ryan reprising his role as Bumblebee) included as a special feature on the DVD. Pretty well-established, I'd say.

 

Big rule of thumb is that if it’s not in a movie, it can be changed. Bay is quoted saying that the comics aren’t canon. And it’s like that with most movie franchises that have extended media.

 

 Mind. Blown.

 

Wait, what? Bumblebee is a stand alone film. Nothing from the previous films would have given this film any context. Hell, it's the opposite as it clearly retcons things from the Bayverse.

 

Still there won’t be any transformers fans it did bring new things

 

I would have found it amusing when the two Decepticons were connecting with the computers they discovered the files on Megatron being frozen in Hoover Dam and then going ballistic at the idea humans have been dissecting their leader.

 

At what point did they throw the Bayverse continuity out the window?
They didn't do this scene in the movie because of conflicts with the Bayverse, but none of the movie fits in with the Bayverse.
Not the look of the characters.
Not the timeline of events.
Not the fact that the characters were actually likable.
Not the fact that the story made sense.

 

Well... When you consider that the films kept rewriting what MacGuffin was responsible for the creation of the transformers... Any story can be considered continuity.

 

No they didn’t?
The Allspark gives life to them, the Matrix powers the solar harvester, the space pillars creates a space bridge and the seed creates the material used to build Transformers.

 

Yeah, the Sunbow cartoon is the same way. The Allspark (G1 equivalent of Vector Sigma) origins come before the Creator (Quintessons) origins, where the alien makers make the physical bodies of the Transformers, and the Allspark merely gives machines life. There's literally no issue, and if anything, that actually follows the source material.

It's little different than saying that physical materials were mined to make modern day human machines, and other energy sources make those materials function.

 

In the first movie The Allspark definitely gives them life, but in Age of Extinction it was at least implied that The Seed could also give them life.
Add to that the fact that Lockdown tells Prime in that movie "You weren't born you were built, and they want you back."
That completely throws the origin of Transformers in the Bay movies into doubt -and that's okay as long as it's addressed.
And that's what seemed likely to happen. Optimus was flying into space with The Seed to challenge "The Creators".

But in the next movie "The Creators" were really just Quintessa and The Seed was completely forgotten.
And that doesn't even begin to address the fact that the rest of the movie killed any sense of continuity.

 

There's something that was never explicitly stated or even implied. It was merely stated the Creators detonated the Seeds on thousands of worlds, including Earth, to make the Transformers, that the humans wanted the Seed to detonate it in the Gobi Desert to make more prototype Transformers of their own, and that Galvatron wanted to use it to build a new army. And without an Allspark or other method to give them life, Galvatron's troops were merely lifeless drones controlled by him.

The Seeds' detonations merely created the metal that made their bodies, so the Creators had a race of slaves ("You were built to do as you were told."); the Allspark is what gave them life. It's no different than Sunbow, where the Quintessons built the Transformers as robotic slaves, and the Transformers were given life by Vector Sigma.

 

As much as I love the original Transformers cartoon, I don't think it's a good idea to say that the Bayverse movie continuity is at least on equal footing with the G1 cartoon.
The continuity on that is all over the place. I think it's fun to come up with reasons for how things fit, it's what I do, but that was a different age.
You can't expect audience members to write scenarios in their head to have your movies make sense.

And, you're right, the aspect of The Seed giving Transformers life was never explicitly stated in AoE, whether or not it was implied is subjective.
It certainly made things metallic and there was all this new talk about "Creators" and the Transformers being built.

And again, that's fine. Throw some wrenches in the gears. Shake up the story.
Give the audience something to think about between films.
That's actually pretty cool.

But then they ruined all of that because they never addressed any of it in TLK.

Thankfully, Bumblebee is a proper reboot and none of it matters anymore.