I think you cant handle the truth. Its a freakin movie. You put too much thought into it. A $15 ticket is not an investment.

 

Hey what can I say ? I never the movie buff mentality. They go full diva about about something that is supposed to be entertainment. Honestly ive never seen a movie I didnt like. Stupid maybe, but never disliked it. All I need to do is see a commercial or even just read the back of a DVD to decide if Ill like it. Im not a diva. Im essy to please.

 

Yeah Brawn got hit in the shoulder but actually lived this time. And I believe he’s one of the autobots coming to earth.

 

Yes, you absolutely are a diva and no, you're not easy to please. You're one of the loudest complaining voices in the fandom. Nothing makes you happy, except bad rappers and stupid movies.

Stop reveling in garbage and try and rise above your current station. You're part of the problem, not the solution.

And the $15.00 for the ticket isn't the problem, exactly, it's the investment of time (which cannot be replaced) and actually paying for the insufferable experience.

No one but you is you, stop trying to make it a world like that. You don't want to be discerning, that's fine, don't get upset when the rest of us are.

 

Not going to go in depth.
Good movie.
Weak script in places.
These aliens speak American- all without the World Wide Web!
Couple ‘seriously?’ moments.
It suffered an identity crisis: prequel or reboot?
Some truly surprising moments.
Cliffjumper.
The scenes set on Cybertron put a grin on my face. I was almost a kid again. Nice to see some familiar faces.
Driving across the Golden Gate at the end hit me in the feels.

Bay has a definite shooting style, and I like his adrenaline filled scenes. However, Travis Knight did just about everything else better.
I feel Knight accomplished more at a fraction of the budget. Maybe a bit of a hyperbolic statement, but it seemed like there were more transformations in this Transformers film than all 5 of Bay’s combined.

 

No dude. You acting like a diva. You whining because you spent your hard earned $15 on a TF movie and you didnt like what Michael Bay did with it ? You want a snickers ? Maybe it will make you feel better that your favorite actor or director didnt make a movie that meets your criteria. And you want me to "rise above my current station" whatever that means ? I think movie buffs are the real problem. The whole rotten tomato site should be shut down. The razzies should be shut down. Cut all the critic crap and just tell it like it is: you didnt like the damn movie. Your "criteria" is not mine and my "criteria" is not yours. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder in all aspects of life. All that critique crap is pointless. No go watch mary poppins or some other stupid movie that "experts" awarded 5 stars or a little golden trophy man to the director. I crap on the so called experts opinions the same way you crap on mine. Nobody made them gods. Their s**t stinks just like the rest of us. Seriously....

 

If they were going to kill Cliffjumper so early on... They should have just gotten The Rock to voice him again!

 

Okay dude, seriously, just say that you hate good movies and only like brainless action and go. Stop sucking off Bay’s transformers films and take a second to realize that there is a lot more to cinema than mindless action movies. You need to realize that just because you don’t enjoy a movie if it doesn’t have action doesn’t mean the movie is bad. The movies get awarded “5 stars” or “trophies” for a damn good reason. Holy shit it pains me that you legit feel this way towards some of the films out there that are legitimately amazing despite having no action.

 

Lol yeah that’d be great. Be even more impressive and short of a cameo.

 

Just let it go man...

 

This. A thousand times fold.

I had this written up as soon as I left the movie but this essentially captures everything I liked about the movie. I sincerely hope they continue from here and keep the tone the way Bumblebee has put on for more possibly great movies.

 

There was a lot I liked about the movie. It felt like a genuine Transformers film, albeit like a one-shot comic (a Mosaic?). That's one thing that made this easier to swallow - the other five have all been these massive battle royales, while this film had a smaller cast and was able to do stuff with them. Funny, because as of late, I've been really thinking about how Hasbro really needs to take some advice from Beast Wars - the movie doesn't need every single character present in order to sell toys. We all know how great that Decepticon montage turned out in THE LAST KNIGHT; yeah, we were introduced to all these characters, only to have one or two of them get a toy, and all of them get killed off by the end of the movie after only saying a couple lines. Yippee.

I also legitimately liked the human characters this time around. I felt WAY more emotional seeing Charlie saying goodbye to Bumblebee after one movie than I was when Sam broke down when the Autobots were exiled in the third film. Maybe a bit of bias here, seeing as how next year marks ten years since my dad died, but I really related to Charlie missing her dad. It hit really close to home when she said she felt she never got to say goodbye.

As usual, SPLIT LIP has some great commentary. As much as I liked Shatter and Dropkick, I too was irked that they never were referred to by name. They could have at least introduced themselves, or maybe during the interrogation with Cliffjumper, he could have said their names, whatever. Other than that, I liked that they were essentially a good cop/bad cop duo (they kept reminding me of Obsidian and Stryka in many ways). For once, we got some Decepticons that aren't gun-toting, snarling, feral beasts, but actual characters. ...Just...remember to have someone say their names, especially if they're new.

(Speaking of gun-toting, snarling, feral beasts, is it just me or was Ravage a wolf/canine? I coulda swore I heard him barking when he attacked Optimus. It's funny, because silly little me thought Ravage was a wolf when I first saw the '86 film...but maybe I'm being silly again. I dunno, even if he is, it's still befitting to the name "Ravage".)

Also, I do want to comment on Blitzwing as well. He's also never referred to by name (aside from the credits). I think Hasbro simply wanted to make a toy out of this one guy, and they just wanted to have some name value attached. Maybe a bit TOO much name value attached, but I think that was the plan. Really, he comes off as a generic Decepticon that managed to land some nasty blows on our hero, giving him amnesia and permanent laryngitis. Then he gets taken out in...actually, a pretty cool way. I'm sure some have already pointed out, the actual Starscream does briefly show up on Cybertron, and it's easy to tell because of the blue he sports.

I do think the "Iron Giant" moment where Bee's eyes go red and he starts shooting at S7 wasn't too outta place. I totally get it. There are scenes that very clearly show that he's been traumatized by the shit he's gone through - leaving his home planet to a bunch of power-hungry thugs, one tortures him by literally ripping his voice box out, and he's been under constant attack ever since he landed (and only two people have shown him a remote shred of kindness). At that point, it was survival instinct kicking in. Ironic that he gets his memories back, and Charlie had to remind him of who he really is to snap him out of it.

Overall, this was a good movie. I legitimately had goosebumps during the Cybertron scenes, and they only multiplied tendfold every time I recognized a character. I'm also grateful we're back to having the synthesized robot voices. I know I'm being wishy-washy, but despite the connections (e.g. Bumblebee becoming the '77 Camaro at the end), they could SO EASILY ignore the other five films. I mean, God knows THOSE films do.   I think if they're gonna go from here...well, exactly. Go from HERE. The next movie needs to focus on a different set of robots, though. I dunno...Ironhide, Arcee, and Ratchet having to fight off Shockwave and the Constructicons building a Space Bridge or something. Hell, I just read about the CGI film being in the works - there you go.

Oh, and being the Soundwave fan I am, I had to keep myself from shrieking when Soundwave spoke. I'm not at all put off by it not being Frank Welker - that was Soundwave up there. Man alive, that vocoder effect is so goddamned sexy to the ears.

(Also, hey, I'm not dead! First post in, what, a couple years?)

 

This, the last time I felt something like that was in The Avengers 2012 screening. Wild.

 

Tell that to the parents who pay for multiple kids. It might not seem like a lot to you, but for families it's a costly day out.

 

You've gotta see spiderverse man. Lots of laughs and cheering in my viewing.

 

Did anyone see Jazz anywhere? I’ve been checking up on tfwiki’s page for the movie, and the Autobot cast was updated to include him, Huffer, and Gears. Please help me find my son

 

Saw this movie last night and I'm still pretty pumped! I remember when they announced the Bumbebee spinoff I had little interest in it - especially after The Last Knight really soured me on the Bayverse, or whatever remaining enthusiasm I had for that (fyi: I'd say I'm a pretty big fan of the 2007 movie, it got me back into the franchise and had me started collecting - I've found every sequel to be worse and worse, made of everythng I didn't like in the first).

Boy, was I wrong. This movie's great! It definitely is not perfect, but things that don't work are so minor in comparison what does work, in my opinion. Both as a Transformers movie as well as a movie about a kid coming of age and dealing with life and loss.

Some random thoughts:

-The Cybertron bits are great. I guess this is what 'most' fans would like to see (and I'm sure some people might dislike this movie for not having enough of that) and it does not disappoint. The fact that all bots are recognisable G1 updates doesn't hurt at all, obviously - but before anyone tries to accuse me of 'Geewun' - I just think it's so well done as an opening that immediately gets your adrenaline pumping. The look and feel is completely different from Bay's vision, and I understand how people say it looks like a videogame, but I don't agree with that. It's just different.

-I did NOT know about the Cliffjumper bit. Sorry to see him get killed, but with this, the second Prime bit and the ending I feel the Cybertron part at the beginning didn't feel as tacked on as I feared initially (I honestly thought that was gonna be an add-on at the beginning and then we'd never hear about it again apart from the hologram message).

-Ok, I guess this is the one bit I didn't like: the Iron Giant 'homage'. I get it: your movie is already heavily based on E.T. and the Iron Giant, but acknowledging this fact by straight up imitating an important scene from the Iron Giant Does. Not. Help. I'm of course talking about the part where Bee is finally fed up / gets an overload of memory recollection and goes into 'attack mode' - and exactly like the Giant his battle mode comes up, tiny red eyes and all, and starts destroying military property. I really think this was the wrong choice - then again, it only goes on for a little while so.....Ehh.

-Is it a prequel or a reboot? Having seen the other movies, it's safe to say this definitely started out as a prequel, with bits added or changed into production that intentionally don't add up so they can use it as a fresh springboard if it's successful. They'll probably decide where to go to after this -at best (in my opinion) this will be a genuine reboot and all the stuff that was meant to tie into Bay's TF (the S7 Hoover Dam base, Simmons, etc.) can just be little homages. At worst, this movie will flop and it will be lumped into the existing franchise where it can live to have as many continuity errors with the other movies as The Last Knight.  

-Liked the part at the end where Charlie and Memo have a moment and she goes 'yeah, err, we're not there yet'. As much as Charlie's character arc follows a standard Hollywood path, the one thing I always dislike is how in movies the characters instantly become super attracted to each other, just because they experienced an adventure together. They don't know each other that well, hell, Memo dropped out of the action TWICE. They're well on their way to growing together, but yeah...definitely not there yet.

-Most of the humor bits actually work. Most of the characters are fun (bots and humans alike..yes, even liked Charlie's family). Steinfeld gives a great performance. Cena knows exactly what he's doing and what his strengths and weaknesses are as an actor. The army/S7 really are a bunch of buffoons, and yet, in a way, it worked for me at least. I greatly prefer this to the 'Ooh-Rah' army tough guys mentality from previous movies (as much as I liked Lennox and Epps).

-Bumblebee is super emotive. Luckily, most of the time not in the zany way he was in the Bay movies (although that's not completely gone). I'm sure this is not just thanks to Knight's background in animation, but also the fact they changed and added elements to Bee's face that allowed the animators to take full advantage of the range of emotions he can portray. Especially his irises, eyelids and 'eyebrows' really help show off just what he's feeling without even saying a word, or the need to fold his door wings down to make him look 'droopy' all that often.

-Speaking of animation and the director's background - the fight scenes are just so much clearer and easy to follow here, despite still having so much going on. Not sure if they storyboarded this better to begin with, or if it's as simple as Bay 'winging it' once they start shooting/creating. I was gonna say 'Knight gets off easy because he only has to juggle like 3 or so robot characters' and then I remember that the Cybertron bits are also super clear to follow despite the utter chaos of war going on.

Some minor tidbits for TF fans that I'm sure non-fans don't give two shits about:

-Energon is apparently green in this movie. I can see why they'd want to show that whatever's happening with Bee when he plugs into the electrical socket - and later on at the harbour tower) is different from 'regular' blue electricity. But I found that odd.

- 'Blitzwing' goes unnamed. He's just a random seeker that gets offed right after ripping out Bee's voice box -. I think his appearance on Earth, well before the other Cons arrive, is a bit too convenient. His only goal is to leave Bee in a state of memory loss and unable to communicate. But screw it, that part was awesome and his design and transformation are cool.

-I also think Shatter and Dropkick aren't named in the movie? I don't remember them every saying their names...or was it when they meet the military for the first time?

-Bee meeting up with Optimus Prime on the Golden Gate Bridge was a nice touch. Was sitting in a packed IMAX theatre and I saw a couple of people raise their hands, do a fistpump, and heard some (very quiet) cheers. These people know what's up, even though I think it's not immediately obvious for non-fans that this is the same character they've been following in the intro.  

-Bee keeps his new body proportions after scanning the Camaro, which looks hilariously off.   It's just so weird because I'm so used to his looks from the Bay movies - but I do like his more 'G1' minibot proportions better for the character.

-Music score: the movie overloads you with 80s-era songs. It's a bit too much on the nose, I guess, but didn't feel grating to me personally (unlike, say, what Zack Snyder did in Watchmen). The score by Dario Marianelli however....it's definitely decent, and it totally works in the movie underscoring the scenes. It's not bad at all - but I don't think it's anywhere as memorable as Steve Jablonsky's scores, which I've found myself listen to again and again, well after the movie. I understand that's a criterion that says nothing about a movie score's intended function - but still think it's a bit of a shame.


I liked it a lot. My friend, who knows nothing about Transformers other than my collection, liked it a lot as well. I'd definitely recommend this movie - although at the same time I'm sure that there are TF fans here and out there who will just miss the amount of robot fights from the other movies and are not looking for a film where a girl bonds with her car. Fair enough, but I'd say quality over quantity.  

Bring on the sequels I'd say - but I actually fear this will make enough money for them to follow through now. I noticed that at least in my country, advertising is very minor - and just like Spider-Verse, this movie is just not playing that often AND just at one cinema chain. Ouch (I live in the second biggest city of the Netherlands). My IMAX theatre was packed however, but then again movies are often not that long in IMAX over here until they get switched out for the next big one.
This, and maybe the bad image the TF movies have built up with every sequel will probably hamper its success....but I'm hoping it will do good (enough), cos I want more of this. Definitely going to see it on the big screen again!

 

Wait really? Crazy. That’d be great if he was there. I was thinking the other day how much I wanted a live action huffer. Even though I really want jazz and prowl. But I’d like to hear more on this. I’ll need to see it again.

 

I saw it a second time and man did my brain switch off to absorb every bit of the scenes as it could. While I did enjoy the opening with those blink or you'll miss it moments with the Autobot cameos (Wheeljack, Brawn, Cliffjumper, Arcee, Ratchet, Ironhide), someone said they saw Jazz, Huffer and Gears, but it happened way too fast for me spot any of them. I think my newfound favourite scene has to be where Bee hugs Charlie after she explained the loss of her father... it was just so sweet and so heartwarming that it melted my heart.

The way Charlie touches/hugs Bee... its so real, like he really was there and not a CGI character at all. It was just... perfect!

And the way Bee pulled Jazz's move on Dropkick from the 80s cartoon opening, it never ceased to make me smile at just much Travis Knight was paying attention.

Honestly, the G1 designs of the characters... they don't bother me as much anymore. It's pretty respectful at how they brought the classic boxy design for Soundwave, Optimus Prime, and Shocwave to the big screen and still made them very life like and Movieverse-ish. The way Optimus' mouth plate moved as he spoke, again, I understand just how much the 80s was working its way through.

Well done, Travis Knight.

 

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