At the end of the day G1 is and will always be the heart and soul of Transformers, even throughout the many TF show incarnations they all pay homage to G1. Most of the hate is coming from the movie fans who like the movies and nothing else. I'm all for new type of shows like Beast wars and... Tf prime? That show I guess is a bit different and stuff out of the G1 style in general but I'm also for all G1 aswell.

 

Actually the reason for all the complaining is because they should have already moved on to Beast Wars. All these modern G1 updates first started appearing on the 20th anniversary of when G1 first started. No one had a problem with it till the 20th anniversary of BW came around and we were expecting to get the same treatment only to get absolutely nothing instead. We've had a few Beast Wars references along with every other generation sprinkled through out like they just aren't as important. If everyone got the exact same treatment at their respective 20th anniversary there would not be as much complaining about all the G1 catering as there is.

 

I agree with a Beast Wars prequel. I am no author lol. I would have loved to see a 75-80 minute prequel. 2 story plots, As TLK Barricade said above how Megs obtained the Golden Disk. And the other 1/2 of the story Optimus Primal's "primary" mission to drop off Protoform X to a desolate planet; w/most of the crew not knowing the true nature of their research mission.

Have Depth Charge make a small cameo talking slag to Primal b/f his departure.  

It would be nice to have most of the voice actors back for this prequel.  

 

I think I'd actually prefer a TF multiverse anthology, with this being one of the stories in it.

 

this is superman


he's had many different incarnations over the years people may want new characters but they don't want to get rid of superman. they understand that no matter if he goes electric, black suit or whatever it always goes back to him as clark kent reporter for the daily planet because that is what the story is all about

transformers fans are the weirdest group ever and most of the complaints and infighting are down to aesthetics. every era aside from beast wars is derivative of g1 in a way and the argument could be made that beast wars is a direct sequel. even the maligned bayformers is g1 albeit styled differently. yes some things are more styled g1 than others but they all have the basic story of transformers coming to earth to fight decepticons with the help of plucky humans whether its spike, sam, sairi or shaoshao li!

it appears to my viewing there are three types of fans right now: those that want big blocky robots, those that want aliens unrecognisable as vehicles, and those that want to completely reboot the franchise (aka the people action masters were made for)

I myself think the problem isn't g1 itself, more that transformers limits itself to one story at a time. Idw had a bit going on with windblade, optimus prime and lost light but im talking about stuff like the spotlights where we follow characters on other types of stories whether its diplomacy or an entire series based on the q labs scenes from james bond where you have someone like brainstorm in research creating a weapon or gadget then we see that item in use in the field

 

Hate? HATE ?!!!? I absolutely love G1 and G1 optimus prime is my favourite incarnation of optimus prime.
However, I am one of those people who is worried about how Hasbro keeps on persisting with using the classic G1 designs. So how does one fan who is genuinely concerned with the future of Transformers,(saying that he thinks the overuse of G1 goodness could be a bad thing) classify as hate?

 

Objectively speaking, would the influx of G1 designs actually hurt the brand? If so, how?

Personally, I love it when TF takes on a different aesthetic and I really don't like the idea of "brand unification". But both those stances are ones I only see within the TF fandom. With respect to the casuals and especially to the kids finding their way into the franchise for the first time, would the increased G1 presence be detrimental?

 

OK, I figured that this is an unpopular opinion I must share regarding G1.

I'm personally not too keen on the Seekers sharing the same design aesthetic as each other. I mean one characters having the design is fine (i.e. Starscream), but for every other character to just have a simple paintjob isn't all that worth it to me. The Coneheads provide a little more variety but again they go back to having the same original problem of just having a simple coat of paint.

It feel as if for their personalities to shine through more, they need attention. If Thundercracker is a guy who isn't 100% dedicated to the Decepticon cause then something needs to stand out more. If Skywarp is like a prankster, then maybe do something to visualise that.

I mean why else would Mortal Kombat decide to change the ninja characters from:

To:


Or:




It's the same thing they kind of tried with Ryu and Ken in Street Fighter.

All in all, the Seekers are my biggest peeve with redecoed characters and something I feel is a part of the lore that can be broken.

 

in fiction yes id love to see them all as different jets but if toys are made its easy repaints and we don't have to worry about not getting all three because to Hasbro repaints are almost pure profit. I could see it working if the 3 main seekers were unique and they made army builders, which is what I think they should have done with the combiner wars starscream and the power of the primes starscream. imagine Starscream, skywarp and thundercracker as the potp mold and then lines of the cone heads,rainmakers, the more than meets the eye guys as well as the generic lilac ones all using the ghost starscream mold (coneheads would use thrust)

 

I think it's a combination of multiple factors. I don't think that it's outright hate, even though I've definitely seen sentiments which could at least be considered a strong dislike. I'm sure there are some people who do hate G1, but I'd bet quite a few of them were just being contrarians for the sake of it. It's something teenagers do that they (sometimes) usually grow out of, the need to rebel for the sake of it, not for any valid reason. Going against what's popular makes them feel special.

Some people are simply nostalgic for a different era, which then makes it amusing when they rail on people for being blinded by nostalgia, when in reality they're just not happy that their nostalgia isn't being catered to. They're reacting negatively because their nostalgia and what they like isn't being represented more often, and I'm not even saying that's an unjustified reaction, I'm just pointing out what I see. But ultimately this tribal mentality isn't helpful to anyone. I agree that in a line like "Generations", other eras should be more represented, but getting pissed whenever anything G1-based appears won't make that happen.

I think another factor is a sense of entitlement millennial's have towards what they consume. They'd celebrate if we got a new Optimus Prime who was absolutely nothing like the character, and probably mock ""Geewunners"" who rightfully criticized or just didn't automatically like it, say they were 'afraid of change' and other such nonsense. Whether a character that was nothing like OP yet had his name could be good or not isn't really the argument here, it's the fact that these people would argue that it's a good thing because it's 'new' and 'different', even though something being new and different doesn't automatically make something good.

I think these people also have difficulty understanding what gives a franchise staying power, if every single continuity they released was nothing like the last, it'd become such a diluted and shapeless concept, that it'd be hard for anyone to attach to. This isn't even taking into account that if Hasbro were to make a series called "Transformers" that featured no iconic characters, that it'd be them taking a massive risk when they don't need to. Some people say all Transformers needs is to be about "Robots that turn into things", and as such characters like Prime and Megatron don't need to be there.

To me that's like saying that Batman is just about "Heroes and villains that wear costumes." Could a story theoretically work without the most recognizable characters? Definitely, but I don't think it'd do as well as using their most recognized characters.

Also given the absolute state of western animation and so forth, I strongly doubt we could even get something that was a faithful and quality adaption of the series, let alone something 'new' and 'different' that was remotely any good. They'd give it to some fruitcake who never even watched Transformers themselves, they had a family member who watched it or something, they'd give it a lazy, ugly art style, they'd hire their friends and pass over people with actual talent, and then they'd just shit this mess onto the airwaves at a hilariously bad time slot.

Give Japan another shot at creating a series, be it a Manga or Anime, I can practically guarantee it'd be better than anything TF-related that the west is creating at the moment.

 

Basically all of this. Right now Hasbro's giving us too much of a good thing when it comes to G1 love and it's going to end up shooting them in the foot unless they start actually giving the other TF eras and their respective fandoms a chance to shine. G1 isn't the problem. It's the growing oversaturation of it is what's getting to people.

 

I get that it feels over saturated. I think a big contributing factor to this is that they keep revisiting some of the same characters.

IMO, they should do each figure once and get it done right the first time. Consider Powerglide. We got an oversized one that was the wrong color. Then we got that same figure in the right colors. Then we got one that was the right size and color but it was in a movie line and had some movie influence in its design. Then for the 4th Powerglide, we finally got one that was the right scale, in the right colors, and finally based on his G1 design. They’ve done this with several characters. They should just get each character right the first time and then move on to other characters, including characters from other eras.

 

Yeah, well...

to me this aint the same ol' G1:


To me this IS something new.

 

But then, how would they take your money the other three times?

 

Truth bomb right there.

I just got Richthofen and called it done.

 

To you it might be, and I'm glad it is, but from my perspective it's the G1ification of the only official media that wasn't G1. There is now is zero currently running transformers media that isn't G1 based and one toy line that isn't that's now transitioning to also being G1.

 

I know, right? But here's a really weird idea: how about instead of 4 of the same character, they make 4 different characters, maybe throwing in some from other eras, all based heavily on their original source material. I know it'll never happen. Instead, we get the same characters over and over.

 

I don’t understand what is so offensive about it.

 

Just dived into the thread, and perhaps provide a possibly decent answer to the op (hopefully nobody else covered it, hehe)
I think the hate on G1 is not because people actually hate it, it's the fact of going G1 like doing retro this, retro that, or classic...original...authentic, rather than just being real for the time.

And to give credit to all the posters...I went back to reading everyone's comments just to give credit where it's due and not to discount...
don't use "geewunners"...we're really not all the same. I'm only g1 because I was a preteen when the toys came out, bought my own toys with my own labor  

And for the idea that the new stuff is hated, I think it harkens back to "mills", like the days when comic books were churning out trash copies of super heroes with trash artists who didn't know anatomy but could surely fill the character with random lines...same thing exists in music...when bands existed and became famous because their music was awesome, to manufactured bands that you are told otherwise their music is great. And having said that, I'm sure there are fans of the latter...I don't fault you. It's the "generation"...no pun intended.

 

There's nothing offensive about it, but it is incredibly annoying that more than one thing is popular, but only that one thing is given attention, not only does ignore other fans' personal taste and homogenizes the brand to the highest degree it's ever been since G1 genuinely was the only thing in it.