Punch/Counterpunch - Shoulder Modification

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  1. PrymalD

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    Awesome fix. Night and day. Thank you!
     
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  2. Mondochuk

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    I just did the fix, I started to pop the pin out that holds Counterpunch's chest on and stopped immediately- It didn't break anything thankfully, but it did stress some of the yellow plastic on the one side since it was pushing the whole assembly away away from the yellow side the center punch was on. I guess Punch/Counterpunch doesn't like a center punch. Haha!

    Just a note to anyone who is going to pop the pins: be careful. Fully support the other side of where the pin would exit.
    And yes, I was pushing the smooth end out so the burred end would exit the plastic first and not go through the whole assembly.

    In the end I abandoned this and just did the fix as outlined in the video. Took all of 5 minutes?
    Whether or not it was intended, it makes it easier to transform. I don't think a kid who is 7-9 is going to want to "massage" the car mode constantly into staying together. So I guess lump me in with those who think this was a miss-assembly.
     
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  3. PrimalFury

    PrimalFury The Chosen One

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    Is this 100% confirmed to be an assembly error? Has anyone emailed Hasbro about it?
     
  4. Wh33ls

    Wh33ls Original G1 kid, and loves Beasties as much, eh!

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    Yeah right, as if Hasbro would admit that they ****ed up. If it was a colossal ****-up like the recent reissue of that RID that Takara re-released, than sure, but for something so minor, and all of the other "minor" mistakes, you're deluding yourself.
     
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  5. Agent Prime 2814

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    Yeah i dont see hasbro ever admitting a mistake. Ive transformed mine twice with no issues without a fix. Its really your preference if you want to fix it or not. I keep mine in robot mode anyways so not worth it to do fix.
     
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    Right. From what little bit I've read, it seems that this ends up simply being a matter of preference and not one if misassembly. Cool that the modification improves upon it some.
     
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  7. Cool Hand Lube

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    *big shrug* It certainly helped the transformation on my copy but my buddy's copies were both fine and did not use the mod.
     
  8. conleyh2006

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    did amazon run out of this guy completely my preorder is not updating and they don't know when or if it will update anyone got any information or want to sell one of these figures
     
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    If anyone wants to continue to troll this thread, it will follow with formal board reprimands.

    Stay on topic and heed the board rules.
     
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  10. Rotorstorm

    Rotorstorm Wreck n’ rule

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    from what I’m hearing, the stock Kapow recieved all have the shoulders assembled like in the fix. It could still be misassembly
     
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    Well, that's certainly interesting. Thanks for sharing this.
     
  12. IronMagnus

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    I wonder if they somehow received a second wave of production? It would be interesting to hear how they are for people who get it late from Amazon, assuming they're getting them from a second production run.
     
  13. DesertDog

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    Just did the mod despite not being particularly bothered by his transformation. Definitely makes a positive difference. I couldn't say, and very much don't care if it's misassembled, or just a design oversight like Repugnus' beast mode arms needing a joint corner shaved to get the illustrated articulation, but I'm happy it's such an easy fix. I prefer not to whittle my Transformers whenever possible. :D 
     
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    Finally cracked mine open. At first I thought the arms not staying down a little annoying, but I did the fix and oh my gosh they are rock solid. It's scary as hell, but some miracle gave him blue plastic that just happens to survive a ton of flex. And you even get more movement as shoulders; turning an awesome toy into a triumph. POTP was an odd duck of a line, but what a note to end on
     
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  15. Wh33ls

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    Got P/CP today, & did the fix, took like 10 mins to do being all careful and all.

    Thanks for the fix and instructions, you clever people!
     
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    I am 100% certain this dose not fix anything at most your potentially breaking your toy in attempting it. I see no pictures supporting only found pictures that has it assembled correctly with flat parts down. The few things i see that people gain by doing it is making less of them out there as people break it attempting this modification because it is not a fix when it's not broken. The other possible reason I see behind it is you know it's not broken and this is a means to grab attention. The best outcome of doing the fix is you will scratch arms and side of the body to heck because the arms no longer lock at a 90 because that is what the flat part is ment to do is lock the arms so they do not keep touching the body that is the so called fix your undoing that designed in protection.
    I took this picture from amazon, no editing you can clearly see flat sides down. In this picture you can clearly see the flat part meets with the flat part of the chest armpit area why would you want a round part on the flat part that prevents the arm from being locked. Do not do the so called fix because the arms are not broken I am sorry if you have issues working a ball joint. Do not say Hasbro mis assembled anything when it's clearly put together properly as designed. But if you want to do the fix go ahead but keep in mind there is no more stock right now so getting a replacemnt is not happeneing unless your willing to pay scalper prices.
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    I have 3 pictures that has Robot's right arm is factory assembled the left arm with the modification you have directed to happen
    Left side of picture as assembled, Right side of picture Modification.
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  17. Mondochuk

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    Pictures snipped because reasons.

    First off: :rolleyes: 
    And:
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    Secondly, no one is making you do the switch, many have commented it makes the figure more enjoyable for them, easier to align, and more solid in alt mode.
    Just because you can't find a picture of it doesn't mean it couldn't have been mis-assembled. It does happen, has happened in the past (for over 15 years), and will happen in the future.
    There's even a whole entry for it at the TFwiki, so please read and be amazed: Misassembly - Transformers Wiki

    If you're happy with it without the swap? Fantastic!
    If you like it more with it done? Great! It's an OPTION. Nothing more.
    It's a toy ultimately. Do with it what makes you happy.
    But please don't come in here decrying anyone who does it as "wrong" or demeaning them.
     
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  18. Cool Hand Lube

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    LOL I love the "THE STOCK PICS SHOW IT THIS WAY SO THAT'S CLEARLY THE RIGHT WAY". I'm all over here like, "man, have you SEEN Hasbro stock photography in the last 20 years? It ain't always great." Plus if it IS a misassembly then even the stock pics will be wrong, how is that difficult to see?
     
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    The reason i said that is the person who posted this replied with a well i seen it in pictures with the flat parts up and it's int eh instructions too all of which are proven wrong then a podcast said if you do not do this the shoulders will break on their own. You can not see the shoulders in the instructions nor the artwork and as i have shown in the listed package photos they are all flat side down. This is MP 34 Cheetor all over again just arms not feet thou that case was not reading the instructions. In regards to other things Hasbro released i am well aware of them such as this, maybe a shoulder swap will work.... cuss you know the tires are on the side of the arms and not on top like the artwork. Sorry for countering all the claims i heard to make the so called fix right and proved the whole idea wrong but have fun cracking open the toy and hope your do not break it cuss EBay has it at 50 right now. Yes I have heard people have broken the toy while trying to do the fix.
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  20. Kamen Ranger Bat

    Kamen Ranger Bat Don’t hassle the Hoffimus Prime

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    Is this not a close up of the shoulders from the instructions which is based off of the CAD files of the figure? D50FFABC-42E6-4A7D-A48D-90134A625830.jpeg
     
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