I am interested. Tell me about him.

 

I would generally agree. Takes like at least a day or two for them to "process" it to a shipment, then maybe it might ship that day or the next. Though, I ordered Helion from them on Thursday, it was shipped on Friday morning and on its way. (SmartPost, sadly, is the slowest POS in the world.)

 

Who has the best deal on Hellion?

 

I've placed 2 order in the last month (Hot Toy Tarkin and Vader and 2 SH Figuarts Star Wars figures) and they were items that they have had in stock for some time. Orders went fine but they took about 5-6 days to go from processing to actually putting it in a box....that's not counting the weekend. It was the same each time and when I called to check on it, it suddenly goes into a box the next day.

I've actually gotten to the point where I will buy stuff from someone else and pay more because I know it'll go out and I won't have to worry about keeping track of it being shipped.

 

Baba has raised price from $68.88 to $70.88 ($75.88-$5). Does any trusted seller offer him at a lower price? September ebay flash sale should be around the corner, isn't it?

 

Got my Hellion a week or two ago but I'm also pretty happy with the Toro I got a month or so ago and opened.

What are the main pros and cons between the 2 as you guys see it?

I know I'm in the Hellion thread so likely to be more pro Hellion but still curious... Thanks.

 

Right off the bat one pro for Hellion is that the alt mode more closely resembles the G1 toon alt mode more closely than any of the other 3P MP Cliffjumper offerings.

 

Toro has, arguably, a more accurate look from the front, down to the little spoiler on his chest. The alt mode is more accurate to the real car Cliff was supposed to be. The trade-off is that his chest is faux car parts, and he's carrying like 70% of his alt mode on his back.

Hellion doesn't look as good from head on. His waist is an issue, and his arms look a little short. His back cleans up much better, which aids in more dynamic poses. And his alt mode isn't quite full on chibi like the cartoon, but it's closer than Hellion's.

Overall, both figures seem to be good but imperfect takes on Cliffjumper. So the question isn't really "which is better?" It's "Which ones flaws can I better live with?" For me personally, that backpack on Toro is just too clunky, and Cliff never really looked like a Porsche, so I'm team Hellion. But just as many people are put off by Hellion's waist, or they like the realistic alt mode on Toro, and that's just as valid.

 

Picked up Hellion from kefeilgz2225 during today's Ebay flash sale for $57 shipped.
Transformers toy Ocular Max OM OX PS-09 HELLION G1 Cliffjumper New instock | eBay
@appchasers gave a positive testimony about that seller late last month.

 

Hellion also has the most funky neck. His forward and back neck bend is the strangest I’ve seen from a toy in a while. The long and super thin waist is weird too. The door design is strange and slips off the bar during the transformation and his head pops off easily.

The face sculpt, and back is nice though.

Toro is a much more solid all around figure, but the MASSSIVE backpack and head/face design leaves a lot to be desired.

The alt-Mode is down to preference. I prefer Toro’s Realistic design. I wouldn’t mind a more cartoon accurate alt-Mode, but I won’t give points to “closer” designs. If it’s cartoon accurate, it better be a penny racer. But again, that’s preference.

 

Need some hot dogs.

 

To me that pic shows everything wrong with MP bumblebee. But that's just me .

 

Why, its already a sausage fest with those two.

 

In person, is Hellion's backpack around the same size as Bee's?

 

Roughly the same mass overall but Hellion's is right/left and Bee's is up/down. Hellion carries it better, imo.

 

Ok cool

 

Killer as usual, bravo!

 

I wish they would scale like this. Hellion is great, but if they ever release him at 110% size, I'll happily buy a second.

 

Mine just arrives but one part is broken. Can it be fixed by a replace part? It seems hard to replace the single part but need to replace one leg.