I don't have Netflix right now, so I'm behind, was it good?

 

the nextflix new volton series is on season 7 already ? wow

 

im so sick of bumblebee. id be a lot more interested in this if hasbro let some other character get the spotlight for once

 

It was SO GOOD!!!!

 

I didn’t catch onto the bumblebee thing at first but I am now.

 

We'll its just not me its marketing in general, over all production cost is just not worth it to go all out. kid toys are cheaper to make and sells more, either way doesn't bother me. I enjoy it and I rather have kiddies get into it.

 

Not a problem, and I am an adult collector from G1, I'm just saying our pockets go to the more pricey third party cause they do limited runs. Hasbro can't afford to take the risk. so kid market wins over us.

 

By the allspark this show looks bad. 

 

You really don't get how that works do you?
Overstock which is what goes to TJ Maxx and Marshals can be discounted because it's overstock. They(Hasbro) have to clear out the warehouse for material that didn't sell to major retailers.

Ollies on the other hand, does negotiate a lower price by bulk, but they(Ollie's) are actively taking a mild hit on the sales, not Hasbro. It's under their marketing budget as a means to get people into the store for the foot traffic and to move other goods they do profit off of.

Hasbro isn't "overcharging" for them. You aren't buying direct from Hasbro unless you're ordering from their site. You're buying from the store that has already paid for them to put on shelves.
For bigger retail, inventory orders go to corporate bigger warehouses that are filling in based on merchandise they order to stock those warehouses from whatever company. That stuff Hasbro has already been paid for. Then it goes onto a truck to the stores(sometimes it's main warehouse to then lower end/local warehouse to then store).

Overstock is stuff Hasbro produced but major retailers haven't ordered. That needs to be offloaded, which goes to outlet stores at a discount because Hasbro needs their own space to crank out and store whatever the newest thing major retailers are ordering. That can sometimes be because too much stock made, or a retailer changed order amounts due to inventory reasons etc. Varies chain to chain.

Ollie's on the other hand buys in bulk, like walmart, sometimes using overstock of later material for a discount, but does buy the bigger at a slight discount and marks it down further under marketing costs. Since the item in question is used to draw consumers in it's in the marketing budget like their ads.

On cost, it goes Hasbro cost to make, slight markup for profit, then retailer suggested MSRP so the retailer can profit, to what we pay. HTS doesn't mark down to not compete with the retailer, but direct from them would have a discount otherwise since it cuts out the middle man. Technically buying off of HTS, you are being overcharged, but that's for non-compete reasons to major retailers.

Children's toys on the other hand, typically move more volume than the adult collector. That's what retailers want. Though in our case, Generations sustains itself rather well since it's mixed audience of kid and adult collector. But as a whole, the market favors the higher volume that are bought for kids. That's something that's not likely to change. Most volume comes from that. Higher profit comes from volume.

Now the market is shifting, but it's not shifting THAT much to where adult collectors are the dominant market. We do sustain our lines rather well though. But the bulk purchases are still from kid audiences. This is why hasbro(or mattel really) generates higher profits compared to someone like say NECA or Hot Toys that caters only to the adult collector.

Hasbro isn't "selling titans at Ollie's for cheaper!" Ollie's is buying them at a bulk discount and Ollie's is selling them cheaper. Hasbro was already paid whatever the negotiated amount was long before it was on shelves there. It's not a hasbro rep driving there with cases and selling them and then taking that money back to Hasbro HQ, and never was. That's a different model entirely. This is also why when TRU closed, some collectibles that are relatively sold like that from direct market, were pulled by their respective owners. Hasbro goods and Mattel goods weren't because those were already paid for. Well mostly. TRU had a pretty high "credit" debt in that last year which is what helped contribute to forcing it out of business. Many toy makers took a hit because of that unpaid credit debt.

The video game market is slightly different though. More like the direct market, but slightly different. That stuff is specially sent by fedex/mail services. Not warehouse inventory systems(though that also often varies per nature of store and item and amount corporate ordered etc). It's not usually on warehouse inventory trucks. Hasbro goods aren't sold like that. Home Consoles themselves are sold typically at cost. This is why even employee discounts rarely work on them. Stores are breaking even on consoles sold, to then taking a financial hit when they sell below MSRP. They have already paid for them. On the home console market, retailers make their profit from games. This is why the digital market is damaging to them. With no profit made off of Consoles, and if that consumer only buys digitally, then the retailer makes no profit at all.

This also applies to other retailer chains. Many "Sale prices" are the store itself taking a hit to pull consumers in with the hopes they'll buy other material in the process. This is also under the marketing budget. Same as Ollie's. It's a really common retailer practice. But that material is already paid for from Hasbro. What the retailer sells it at below MSRP is the hit the retailer takes, not Hasbro.

For example, the exclusive Animated Purple Shockwave sold at Target had an accidental inventory mistake. Before it was caught, it was sold at under 5 USD. Target took the financial hit from that, not Hasbro. Hasbro had already been paid for the orders it fulfilled. Target took the profit hit, and adjusted accordingly once it was noticed that the system was doing that. Those were losses Target took. Not Hasbro. In comparison, Ollie's taking a loss hit per sale is accounted for and paid for by the marketing budget. It's expected in that case and planned. Same as any other massive markdown sale a retailer does.

 

yes and no. production wise we are only half way through season 3, label wise netflix screwed up and labeled production season 1 as seasons 1&2, production season 2 as seasons 3-6, and production season 3 as seasons 7&8. each production season is 26 episodes and the flow of the show is much better when watched in that manner rather than how netflix broke up the seasons

 

Did you read before the bold print because you're basically preaching to the choir.

@SiamGXPrime is who you should be lecturing since he's the one making weak accusations to discredit the relevance of Adult collectors to get them to shut up. While everything you've posted only supports what I've stated.

Which is if Hasbro or any retail store sending these Titan class figures to other places was an example of Titans being a failure then Hasbro would've stopped making Titan's years ago.

Yet in EVERY instance in which a Generations line has had a Titan class figure they've eventuality popped at Cosco (Metroplex for 74.99), Sam's Club (CW Devastator for $74.99) or more recently Ollie's (Both Ft. Max and Tryp for 49.99 each) for a lower price.

It's clear that this new show is targeting kids, that's why the toys are so cheap vs the better quality that the new SIEGE line is promoting to older collectors.

And as far this show goes, it's looks like you're typical CN crap which I won't be supporting in any way.

 

Cartoon Network’s been airing promos on their channel not really any new footage as far as I could tell.

 

Okay, when does it air?

 

My biggest disappointment with this is that it doesn't appear that they've put any time or effort into the transformation sequences. That's kind of the biggest draw for me.

I miss the Car Robots/RiD sequences where you could actually figure out how they worked. Obviously if they're using two different CGI models then they have to cheat, but you could at least pretend to move a leg or an armor plate before you switch one for the other.

-1 point for drooling helmet Bumblebee. I like the bright colors and designs for the most part, though.

 

Eh. Regardless of how this turns out, I won't have any sleepless nights over it. There's always going to be something down the line that will appeal to me if this doesn't. I survived Energon and Kiss Players, so I'm sure I can endure this.

I recognize the flaws in G1, and find the likes of Beast Wars tediously overhyped. Least I overlook that show once featured (among other things) the villains being defeated by a fart, before I start grumbling about stuff like Radiobee and childishness...
So yes, blind bias and nostalgia doesn't factor a tremendous deal into my views. Nor peer pressure and bandwagons. I prefer to judge products on their own merits.

I have my own personal outline for an ideal Transformers series, that has yet (and unlikely) to be made.

 

While I disagree strongly with some of your opinions I will respect you on your expectations. All that matters is what we want. Fits our own ideals for a good show.