But it's not dead, is it? I'd argue that the opposite is annoying. I already feel unwelcome here, just because I don't cheer for every single thing that's on the news. This is terrible. Absolutely terrible. No one should have to defend themselves against this sort of mob mentality. If I can't say whatever I think, in honesty, this orwellian, to put it mildly. Please back off.

 

To be honest, I don't have positive feelings towards the news but it's more neutral to me. Please don't mistake my argument.

I mean does posting actually make that much of a difference against them? Is there any other action you could take against the people behind the camera?

If anything there are other things that they can be affected by such as box office returns or critical reviews. Not looking forward to the film? Simple... Don't watch it.

 

Yes, I believe it does make a difference. Do you really think that they don't look at what's talked about on social media and fan communities? Not going to see their movie is not enough. There are reasons for choosing to do so. And if we want to ask for better, this is as good a platform as any. This does not forbid you to have a different opinion and express it.

 

Well I'm terribly sorry if there was anything that felt ill-intended.

I'm just not seeing much worth talking now that it is 15 pages. I guess we should both move on.

 

Well, I didn't write 15 pages by myself and neither did you. So, let's move on indeed and no harm done. Have a good day man.  

 

So, by that analogy, that makes you the ankle

Did you just watch some youtube clips from the movie, or did you actually watch the whole thing?

i feel like anyone who truly watched that movie would get a different understanding

i wouldn't immediately apply it to online fandoms, i'd apply it to a woman in love with a specific creator

we are not in love with anyone here, we are actually hoping people get FIRED so new creators can come in who actually care about this franchise, which admittedly belongs to no one, as it is a compilation of contributors, the original being Marvel, but thats a whole other story...

point is i'm not holding someone hostage to produce something better, i'd be more than happy if old bonaventura picks up and leaves and starts a go-bot cinematic universe

Actually it's a very unfair thing you're saying

You get to imply that I have mental illness because I have reasoned displeasure with 5 sub-par movies, but if I imply learning disabilities for people who like brainless crap, it's an instant ban

Besides that, I don't see what's Misery-level psychotic about anything I've posted anywhere -- simply because I want a better quality live action movie for transformers?

Are you seriously comparing my level of distaste with the absolute rabid behaviour of star wars fans for a female being the main Jedi and Luke Skywalker not being featured enough in the new films?

Perhaps it is you who needs to get out of the TF fandom more -- the displeasure in this community is extremely tame by comparison

So it's all about you right? You, and your comfort. If I don't like something about it, too bad for me, I have to relinquish my stakes and shares to the person who is happy.

This is exactly what I mean when I state there is a clique on this board with a specific agenda to maintain the status quo. As long as "no one kills your buzz", the discussion can continue. "Don't make my safe space uncomfortable", aka don't criticize anything, or demand more from the franchise that is literally asking for your money to ruin something you love.

Now THAT is deranged

So you're laughing at the very idea of someone asking for better?

What kind of weird used car dealership salesman operation is going on here?

Insult the customer by laughing at them so they think they couldn't get a better deal anywhere else

 

Of course, buddy. Honestly, I was like that myself sometimes, when my frustrations got the better of me and ended up impeding what I really wanted to say. It's all about taking that time to back off and cool down, looking to more positive results over other medias (Smash Bros finally brought in Ridley, for instance!  ), before taking another go and doing better next time. Bears repeating, you do have a good sense of ideas and direction; you just gotta take it slow and make sure you say what you want to say, not what your frustrations want to say.

Jeez, that's way too philosophical coming from me. Sorry for the pseudo-zen talk  

 

@drbeakman

I might have taken things a little too far but as far as I'm concerned the movies are the only thing you care about on this site. Nothing seems to have changed since you arrived and it is concerning.

And calling me deranged when all I did was provide caution is pretty uncalled for. Which bothers me more. By saying that, then perhaps you are pretty much no different which you and I should know should not be the case.

Also why would my understanding of Misery have to be the same as yours? Opinions are opinions. Again, are you the one that's always right? I said nothing of online fandoms but my understanding is based on why Stephen King wrote the novel in the first place which is to address the craze of his fandom.

I love the 2007 movie and you don't. That's another thing.
Please forgive me for calling you out like that. I acknowledge that it was reckless on my part. The points in this thread are already made clear so let's just leave it.

 

In so much as I loved the trailer and most things about it, it’s a bit early to be hailing this as the Second Coming of Jesus that will cure our leprosy and vanquish the bad taste of Bayformers.

This movie might still be a colossal pile of shit, just for different reasons than those that preceded it.

 

Made a small edit there for ya.

 

Agreed. There used to be a thing that actually existed in larger amounts, called an educated consumer. . .IOW, if I want to know more about Optimus' origins, I can research them rather than seeing a movie about it. . .My $.02. . .

 

Depends on the origin... Is he dock worker Orion Pax? Is he data clerk Orion Pax? Is he an Academy drop out?

Who cares what continuity the movie is set in. Just ask for a good movie.

Also are you really an educated consumer yourself? Or are you just being self-entitled?

 

No, I proactively educate myself on things-especially those things I spend my hard-earned $ on. Alot of folks today don't-and many marketers, sellers, and content creators bank on that (pun intended).

At the end of the day, I am already aware of some of the usual standard Optimus Prime origin story details, i.e., he being a librarian named Orion Pax before deciding to get actively involved in taking a stand against the emerging Decepticon threat, his friendship with a character named Dino, who'd later become his right-hand bot Ironhide, his other-half Elita-1, his connection with Alpha Trion and the legacy of the Primes bestowed upon him by the Matrix of Leadership, his arena battles with Megatronus, who'd later become Megatron, and many more.

I also realize that hollywood is going to (paraphrasing Ray Charles) "do what it do", LOL. However, that doesn't negate the fact that I and anyone else can also choose to see it or not, if an Optimus origin film materializes. Plus, I create my own characters to fill whatever void I feel exists-that's how I roll. You do you.

 

HAHAHAHAHAH
San Diego Comic Con 2018 - Bumblebee The Movie Panel - Transformers News - TFW2005
HAHAHA

 

*blinks* Blitzwing?... You know what, I am totally ok with this. This could make for all sorts of a fun story.  

 

An Optimus Prime movie would be interesting--his creation by Quintessa for her purposes, the evolution of Orion Pax into Optimus Prime becoming the greatest Autobot leader.

 

Because Optimus hasn't had enough time in the spotlight apparently?

Seriously, the franchise is called Transformers, not Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Adventures. DOTM was all about him getting betrayed by his mentor, AoE was all about how he's actually kind of a totally shit leader, and TLK showed he's so morally ambiguous already that actually making him full-on evil basically does NOTHING.

We don't need ANOTHER film focusing on him.

 

Optimus Prime and Bumblebee Adventures (2021)

Faced with the imminent threat of their universe being reset, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee unite with John Cena, Hallie Steinfeld, Danny Devito, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and some other Autobots who don't matter and face off against a merciless purple Cyclops Decepticon named Scourge.

End credits teases the Windblade spinoff movie.

 

I could definitely get into an Optimus Prime movie. I hope this somehow comes about.