I want to want this. I got the teal lambo. But ugh those transformations. Especially motormaster. I couldnt go through them again. Once I combined Menasor hes been sitting on my shelf ever since, no fun to transform. And then Hasbro knocked it out the park with their Stunticons. The limbs would have to be $40 a pop and motormaster $80 for me to even consider finishing this set. 3rd parties need to realize that Hasbro took the game back and they need to bring down their prices to even compete. No CHUG collector is looking for "stand ins" anymore. I might not even bite at cheap prices. The hype is over G2 menasor already exists. Id rather get their Monstructor repaint when TFSource puts it on clearance on black friday. I also remember when ages 3 and up made all the people who bought the teal lambo take a selfie with it and send it to them. What a waste of time that was, like if we were gonna get a free figure or even a discount.

 

I don’t think CW is an immediate replacement but I get what you mean. The value for fun needs to be considered with 3P. I’m not gonna pay two hundred dollars for something that makes me want to rip off my toes.

 

Are you looking for an Intimidator? I think I have one in storage with repro's I can PM you after I confirm it in hand.

 

Hmm. Two FansProject announcements in such short order. One's a pair of light retools, the other's a set of pure redecorating with Ages 3 and Up covering every thing after making the toys themselves. All of it some of their best work (even Diesel, it was a different time*). I hope this is FP kickstarting a new era.

*Yes, I just referred to puzzlely engineering like insensitivity in old media.

 

I might get this, I enjoyed the cars, even to this day! Diesel... not so much...

 

I... uh...

okay.

Kar Krash is absolutely one of my favorite figures, he's got a permanent spot in my connection next to Steelcore, Warcry and Flameblast. I actually liked the idea that there was never going to be any others from the team, that it was this weird one-off with an epic G2 paint scheme. So actually kind of split on this. On the one hand, wasn't sure I wanted more of the team. On the other hand - really this is right up my alley. So... probably going to buy it. But probably won't be wild about it until I have it in hand.

@Kuma Style thanks for the epic pics!

 

I can assure you everything about that motormaster is a horrible expierence. I was a huge 3rd party guy, but not because I liked "stylized" aesthetic. I just wanted the damn characters that I thought Hasbro would never do. Everything from CW wars foward has sold me on Hasbro. (Except devy and predaking for scale failure) Pretty much the only 3rd party stuff I buy now a days is PE add on sets to make hasbro figures better. Still waiting on MMC to finish the DJD characters.

 

I assume you mean fansproject. And I can agree. Although the combined form preforms a lot better than hasbro. I just don’t think it’s worth it.

 

This perfectly sums up my feelings as well.

Kar Krash has a permenant place of honor on my shelf for being so unique and just plain fun to fiddle with. I really don’t need the rest of them to be released at this point, especially with all the negative reviews for Motormaster.

Still, I’ve enjoyed KK so much that I’ll probably pick this guy up as a souvenir at TFCon.

 

Kar Krash also worked well since it is basically like g2 breakdown. The rest of the crew canceled leaving this weirdo as an exclusive and leaving us to ponder for years.

 

Personally, I don’t find Diesel that bad at all. I like complicated and involved transformations. They’re like grown up transformers. Hasbro’s efforts are too simplistic for my tastes. They lack posability and look cheap imo. Each to their own but I’m happy about this announcement and look forward to completing the G2 set.

 

I've been slowly working towards getting a second set of FP Stunticons since I like the individual robots and the idea of combining them horrifies me - Ill do it once when I have a 2nd set and never touch it again (same problem with Giant Basically) But I likely should have left giant combined as the individual robot and vehicle modes are pretty poor.

I'd consider the new G2 fella - but i'd rather have more Shattered Glass Technobots - They best hurry or someone like KFC or DS9 or even Generation Toy (or someone bootlegging Generation Toy) will get around to making a more useful set of G2 Stunticons.

The need for these is somewhat diminished now the CW Boxed set was released. So basically they are of merit as a fiddle-former alone or for people who purposefully collect Fansproject stuff.

 

Yes I mean Fansproject Intimidator. I will never transform him again unless its to put him back in the box and sell him for a halfway decent price.

 

Considering that many people are dissatisfied with Hasbro's offerings and 3rd party is still making a killing on combiners, I'd say Hasbro didn't "take back" anything, they just threw their hat into this game as well, and were the first to offer slavishly G1-styled combiners, which many people also wanted.

Tell that to the large portion of this fandom that still buys 3rd Party combiners because they like them better and don't consider them "stand-ins" like you do.

Hasbro's Motormaster, no matter the repaint or retool, is still a poor torso. Plenty of people who have Intimidator in their collections as their definitive Menasor and who want G2 combiners as well are very likely going to pick this up at any chance they get.

What the crap? Why and how the crap could they "make" people do that? That's just stupid.

...Well then...that escalated quickly...  

I feel if they want to come back from the dead, they need to do more than this. Personally, I think going back and doing full figure combiners for combiners they only upgraded or never did would be a great idea, such as a Superion made from complete figures instead of upgraded ones. Even do the same with Bruticus. And even though Fansproject works closely with MakeToys, they can still do characters that MakeToys already did, right? Because Fansproject versions of Defensor, Devastator, and Computron would be pretty dang cool if you ask me. Honestly, Fansproject Constructicons might actually be better than MakeToys' Giant, IMO. And all of these new combiners could actually be in-scale with themselves and Fansproject's Intimidator as well!

I don't know, but thank you for reposting that quote so I would actually read it, because now I see that they are planning on finishing the set in G2 colors! Yay!!!

Preach, brother!!!   We need Shattered Glass Technobots, as well as pretty much every other character, NOW!!!!

 

• As a,huge G2 mark I want to want this. If it was 3 years ago id have been all over it...but a gave up after we went years with just Kar Krash...then Hasbro (and Perfect Effect) beat FP to the punch and gave us their own CHUG G2 Menasor for a fraction of the price. Sorry FP, but you had the perfect shot but sat on it long enough that you ended up too late for a LOT of your potential customers.

 

I just want to say that if anyone is happy with Diesel than I am happy you like it. All 3 modes look good and he's well articulated, and certainly makes a better torso than the CW version. As for me, and I have a lot of collector figures, official and 3rd party, Diesel was a long and annoying transformation that took any joy out of transforming him beyond any other figure I own. So, most of the time he was in torso mode. And that for me is too bad because I would have liked to display them in bot mode, but every time I started to think about it, I figured I didn't want to take the time. It felt very much like engineering for the hell of it, since he's a blocky bot that turns into a blocky truck that turns into a blocky torso.

 

As to the Broader point on 3rd Party Combiners...
Let me have a think.

I DO NOT own Combiner Wars Devastator (mostly as he didn't come out in the UK and I couldn't be bothered to chase him)
But I do own ; WJ's Hulkie OSKO, Make Toys Giant, G1 Devastator, the WST scale KO, Kreon Devastator, NBK's standard colour KO of Generations Toys offering, 4/6th of the actual GT ones, Hercules,Hercules,Hercules (well just one really and Perseus) various Energon and Superlink and Universe Constructicon offerings and more besides. with plans to buy several others.

So having "A Devastator" didn't make me want to not buy others - all it's done is perhaps put the Toyworld and CW one on the back burner a bit for the time being.

It makes sense to me to have multiple sizes for different purposes so Giant and Hercules are both useful for that reason - not to mention I might like to display some as individual robots - the main reason I'm going to get the JinBao ones is for the individual robot modes.

But no I wasn't of a mind to not buy third party combiners as Hasbro made some - quite the contary I have suprisingly little Combiner Wars and during that time I was rather keen on chasing 3rd party Combiners more than anything else.

 

This. I don't have anything of FP other than Steelcore and the stunticons. And I love both for their ability to tackle something with a fresh set of eyes. Something I've always admired about FP. It wasn't them that pulled me into 3rd party, but from what I understand there would be none of this without them blazing the trail. So people should show some respect instead of being trolls about something they can choose to care about or not.

I don't get some of the weird energy and anger around a companies production choices if you are not required by law to buy it. I've spoken to both FP and ages three back at the last Botcon and was blunt about getting some answers. They had nothing but candid responses. Real people doing real things. And some of them are so into the creativity to a fault.

Personally I think they should have left the business part to people with degrees in that stuff, but to get mad at FP is like getting mad at a super creative kid that just wants to make things with no regards to anything else around them. To get mad at them for not finishing something is like getting mad at that same kid for stopping what they are doing being distracted by life. Then to get mad at them for going back to finishing something they were working on is like getting mad at that same kid for just finishing what they were doing oblivious to you and I. In their own creative world.

Glad somebody can explain this reasonably. I don't know biz, but seems like the practical response for a team like FP. Want to work on more cool stuff, need support, see if fandom wants to support. Pretty simple logic business or not. The fp stunticons are solid, not perfect, but amazing. I'm down for a repaint that otherwise would not be made, so I'll throw down. But that doesn't make me have to believe in anything else this company does or is executing in business. I don't care, awesome project, support and if it leads to funding new projects I like. I will buy those too.

Ya, spoke to Ages three about this at botcon too. Laughed at them for such a weird promo with no real plan. They were candid and said that they worked with FP to figure something out. Life happened with FP and couldn't really get them to do anything about the project. The card itself I was told didn't make any specific promises. Ages three dude Bruce or whatever told me that it was never told to them what FP had in mind, so it was worded carefully to reflect that. But they are gonna do everything possible to do something. So maybe now that the project is back on, they did do something about it. Seems like by them saying in the post they are taking on the project for TFcon and beyond is a pretty big move to enable that possibility.

btw, why would anyone think they would get a free figure from opening a package and sending in a mail-in they spent a stamp to send. Seems like setting an expectation that is sure to disappoint. Would probably also piss off and confuse people that wanted to keep it in that nice looking package like I did. Hint... don't give a free figure, or I will be mad lmao.

 

Been quiet too long. let me start by telling you that you are in the minority among the fandom, globally speaking.

I've seen this kind of argument in 3P threads everywhere. people claiming that "the majority of the fandom" are dissatisfied hasbro, and that 3P are the "better" ones. i don't understand this mentality. you are talking about a product, made by a specific company, complete with its own intellectual property (TV shows, movies, copyrights and everything), and you're telling me just because YOU THINK some random ass Asian people can do it "better" they suddenly have the right to do so without permission and get money from it? and you JUSTIFY the higher prices of these ripoffs?

call me a shill, sheep, anything, doesn't matter. but these things cost a lot of people time, effort, and money to create. and as a fan, I respect their efforts and try to support them as much as I can, by buying their products. I don't want Hasbro's Transformers to be discontinued because a couple of bad movies, or because people are buying chinese knockoffs instead.

Simply put:
If you buy bootleg Lego bricks, you ain't collecting Lego, and the community is sure to bust your ass for it.
If you buy Non-Bandai fake ass model kits, you do NOT collect Gundam/gunpla, and the community is sure to bust your ass for it.
if you collect 3P instead of HasTak that's fine, i got no problem with that personally. it's your money. but you ain't no transformers fan because what you bought ain't a "transformer".