Given those big boxes, I am not hopeful about the price.

 

The way I see it is more like saying events kinda sorta analogous to wfc/foc happened prior to prime, but not exactly

 

So many in-story years pass between the game franchise and the show. The games are essentially early in the war and TFP is more or less at the end, so it's not a shock to me to see a broad range between designs. Hell, RID is the direct followup to TFP and even the designs there are an angular departure from Prime's sleek curves.

I'd never suggest it's a clean lineage between all the points in the Aligned universe, but there is influence from one part to the next.

 

Why would you go this long without showing this Kickback next to Hasbros? Isn't that the whole point behind making another kickback, to show how much better your version is? Just like thier Grimlock?

 

Hm... They strike me as a bit to gray, especially on the heads (Hardshell and whatever Shrapnel was called in the game) and legs (Kickback). They kinda look plain.

 

Not sure if you knew, but when Tieger developed the whole FoC/WfC story, they wanted to make a precursor to G1 (here too plot holes were not covered well as there are some serious fundamentals that are waaaay different from WfC/FoC ---> G1). When Klein did TFP, they were told there was this aligned stuff going on. Klein pretty much gave them the silent bird and did his own thing with TFP, eventually deviating more and more away from FoC/WfC (very apparent in RiD2015).

 

They are certainly very minimalistic in their deco work. Honestly, the actual in-game designs weren't exactly fantastically colourful either. But without the Energon tron-lines being recreated, those large unbroken colour blocks are certainly more apparent. But that simple deco probably contributes greatly to their quite low price tag.

Shrapnel/Sharpshot really looks odd without his black helmet, though. I do believe that's game-accurate, though. His "duckface" bothers me more, though.

 

yea im aware, but like you said, it doesnt fit with g1 either. story wise it has more in common with prime and visually it has more in common with g1

 

You are totally right, I knew something was missing or off about these
They are missing the 'energon glow' lines

 

Can't say I agree here. Just cause they share certain similarities doesn't make it more in common with TFP. Take bee going mute in FoC. That was a feature from the movies (same feature was used in TFP) does that make either series related to the movie series? No. The differences between FoC/WfC and G1 are apparent, but they're no where near as abundant as they are between the HMS games and TFP.

I could list the plot hole differences and just overall differences that between FoC/WfC to TFP/RiD2015 and FoC/WfC to G1 and I promise you the vs. TFP/RiD2015 list will be significantly larger.

They all are. I don't recall any of PX's releases having that feature. Would have been hella-nice if they did.

 

prime is the only continuity to use dark energon (yes, im aware of the differences in how they are portrayed between game and prime), trypticon being the nemesis is only a thing in the games and prime (even if thats not what the writers intended in the show, hasbro specifically said in the little fact bubbles that would pop up that trypticon was the nemesis), bumblebee going mute may originally be from the movies, but the prime show takes a lot from the movies and considering bee went mute after the decision to connect the games to the show was made id say your point here is moot since it was made specifically as a tie in to prime. theres also cliffjumpers head among other things. nowhere did i say it fit perfectly, but the basic backstory of pre war cybertron has more in common between games and prime that games and g1

 

Despite I want to believe WFC/FOC is the prequel of TFP, Trypticon is actually one contradicting existence in the storyline continuity.

In FOC, Megatron and Soundwave converted Trypticon into Nemesis knowing that this change will be permanent given Trypticon's
damaged status. But when Megatron pumped dark energon into Nemesis' power core and accidentally brought it to "life", nobody on
board seemed to remember it's their old pal Trypticon? And Trypticon on the other hand, had no respect to anyone either, locked everyone
in stasis and went on his mission of decoding Iacon database, which god knows who given him that order.

Given these facts, it's hard for me to take they're the same Nemesis/Trypticon.

 

again, given the explanation by hasbro of the "squint test" similar events happened, not the same events. its more of a broad strokes thing, trypticon became the nemesis in both, but the events causing that to happen may have been different.

 

In the Art of TF Prime book they point out that the Nemesis is Trypticon and even provide an image of what his TFP appearance would've been. The Nemesis ships in TFP and FOC share almost identical designs.

In the episode you're referring to, I believe Megatron or the ship say that the Nemesis is doing Unicron's bidding as a result of the Dark Energon infusion brought Trypticon's consciousness back online.

Dark Energon is established as having the ability to repair and reanimate, so it's logical to assume that the DE has brought Trypticon back online, and once it is purged from him he goes back into stasis.

Of course, Megatron completely missed his opportunity to use the Forge of Solus Prime to completely repair and revitalize the titan. In my head-canon he did, and that's how the Decepticons were able to level Jasper, Nevada.

 

It's fun to see how people respond to the same post in completely different directions due to different point of view lol.

I'm completely neutral on whether or not they're in a continuity BTW, since there's too much ambiguous to fully deny anything
if you ask me.

 

I am of the mind the planed it to be continuity but as other said they just dropped it. But by the time they did some of the "continuity" had made it in or the writers just liked the ideas and used them.

 

It became too much of a convoluted mess. I'm glad they walked away from the Aligned concept, especially regarding FoC/WfC <-> TFP/RiD15, but an official statement would have been nice.

 

Let's be frank, they shouldn't walked away from it, obviously someone screwed up something (probably a LOT of it too)
and no one wants to take the blame. So? They just quietly back away and left the fans in the mist.

And again, FOC was such a good game...too bad it's flooded by cheaters in MP modes.

 

Because in alt mode, it really isn't

 

Yeah, Hasbro and PX Kickback are on pretty even grounds, in my book.