Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi

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  1. Pharoid

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    Oh I see it now! Every time Mark blinks he is trying to tell you Disney is forcing him to say those things! Maybe they replaced him with a Life Model Decoy! Thank god you for you man. Now if you could just do something about the black helicopters and contrails. I know Disney is putting fluoride in the water too....


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    Honestly, my only dislikes of TLJ was the pointless casino world scene, and General Holdo. Oh and Leia's use of the force to save her.

    The cinematography and battle scenes were great though. Luke felt off, but came back at the end.

    I hate repeating past opinions, but with this news of a reboot of sorts, which is just silly, i feel the need to say it too.

    I just hope the more rabid side of the fanbase does not get the story movies (among other projects) canned or halted.

    Phew..Well, see you guys at the SDCC panel if they have one.
     
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    I really don't think the asshats of the fanbase will have any effect other than our amusement, and for that of lucasfilm as I read that Rian Johnson even replied to it in his own trolling way wishing the remake would happen (though I think most of us know...it won't). I'm sure any reasonable person out there knows how to delineate between the jackasses, and those of us simply voicing an opinion whether we agree or disagree with each other. For the most part, I find that part of being a fan of something the most fun. The interaction with other fans. Well, that and buying the toys that we want n stuff.

    What I don't get is, the amount of attention given to these jackasses. Ignore em, and they'll go away into their own little subgroups so they can stay in their own echo chamber....being ignored by the rest of us.
     
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    Hey, Luke marrying six Porgs in a trench coat beats Luke’s marriage to the siren! :lol 

    Also love that the remake crew admitted “Okay we’re not doing anything to Leia because Carrie”. Defeats the purpose, right? You really can’t remake TLJ without redoing Leia anyway. If you’re really determined that you can do better, prove it! :lol 
     
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    Ok, if I had to remake Last Jedi...

    Remove "Carrie Poppins". That looked ridiculous on all counts and I don't think there's a way to save that.
    Give Holdo a costume that doesn't make her look like a cocktail waitress...actually, scratch that. I'd cut her character down a bit and just give her role in the story to Leia. It also solves the problem of writing her out of the series.
    Cut out the Casino planet stuff. Confine Poe's activities to aggravating a mutiny on the ship.
    I don't know if I'd cut her completely, but surely I could go for a less annoying Rose. Maybe a less stupid-looking hairstyle. At the very least take out the stupid move she pulled during the battle on the salt planet.
    Speaking of that last bit, make that scene feel less like a visual clone of the opening of TESB.
    Luke actually travels to the battle instead of force projecting for his safety and then goddamn dies anyway. Won't kill him either, it'd be too much to do away with him and Leia in the same movie.
    Give Rey and Ben less romantic undertones for their force connection.
    Snoke's background. Effing give him something!
    Redesign Luke's "milk cow" so that the milk comes out of a penile structure instead, for added discomfort to us all.

    To be honest, I really think my problem with the sequel Trilogy is that the first movie should have been about the failure of Luke's Jedi Academy and/or a little more about the rise of the First Order and what exactly makes it a different animal from what the empire was. Heck, in some spots it felt like some of the other storytelling misfires I saw would have worked if this was episode IX instead. It's a shame Disney felt a movie bridging PT & OT was a bigger priority than OT & ST.
     
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  7. Pharoid

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    I have yet to hear any idea that sounds better than what we got. Queue someone’s Darth Plagueis plot... a bunch of people are still in the 6 Stages of Grief, we’re currently here....
    • Shock. ...
    • Denial. ...
    • Anger. ...
    • Bargaining remake TLJ they’re “ready to have the convo now...”
    • Grieving. ...
    • Acceptance.
    The sooner we can reach acceptance the better.
     
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    Haha, not everyone is part of your version of grief. Or as easily satisfied as you seem to be.
    You see I call it like I see it, to me it was a bad movie in general. As a Star Wars fan is was the worst one yet.

    I don't think anyone will remake it but I'll personally never accept is as "good" movie no matter how much money is made.
     
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    I get that. I am not “easily satisfied” as you say, I genuinely liked the movie as a SW fan, I understand you didn’t. But you either have to reach “acceptance” and move on with the franchise or celebrate what you loved about the franchise before TLJ. It’s here to stay whether or not every fan will be is up to them. But it’s not getting rewritten (what we’re talking about) and it’s not going away, I wouldn’t expect you to “like it” but can you “live with it” is the question.
     
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    good question and also well put.

    honestly the direction of the new stuff isnt for me anymore. I did enjoy Solo but the new stuff just isnt gonna work. Just like with the Transformers Bay movie I will just ignore when
    they are out and enjoy the old stuff.
     
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    Makes sense. There are Transformers movies? I am only aware of that 80’s cartoon movie......
     
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    For whomever it helps, there was always more than one Star Wars canon (which is an accepted collection of works, not an official timeline of events). Early on, George Lucas put forward the idea fans have called the "movies only" canon. That's one body of work. The Expanded Universe is another body of work--a different, more inclusive canon. Disney does not support a "movies only" canon--only their official new canon and the "Legends" (legacy EU) canon.

    But the old George Lucas movies-only canon is still a valid body of work. It's been capped off (i.e. it won't be added to), and Disney does not acknowledge it, but it is not possible to make the category cease to exist. Likewise, the new material is not part of the Legends canon, which is still partially alive. If, like me, the new films have totally turned you off, you don't have to accept them. Ignore the new canon and enjoy either of the other existing ones.
     
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    :lol  I don't feel sorry for Mark at all. He chose to do what he did, and he knew it. He never made any excuses, and like I said....he always spoke with candor. He was always as honest as he could be. And I feel that to be a huge part in why he has such a huge fan base. What's not to love about him?

    And why people can't just let that be as it is, I'll never know. It's like this is turning into the Bayformers threads where if you dared not like something someone else likes with a passion and gave valid reasons, you're the bad person? I can't wait til someone throws around the term "OTers" or something equally as silly/derogatory with the rolling eye smiley or something. I can understand demonizing the asshats of any general fandom that makes really insipid, tasteless, and uncalled for remarks...but come on....


    Right. Either you like it or you don't. There's nothing wrong with either or.
     
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    Had to repost this from twitter:

    “on the one hand, that remake the last jedi thing is very stupid


    on the other hand, reactionary nerds are very easy to scam money off of and i figure that's what this is

    "i will be mad at the social justice warriors on your behalf, for a mere 50 thousand dollars" is one of the most prevalent modern scams around and it'd be hilarious if it didn't do so much actual damage by feeding into that constant fury“

    They’re geniuses :lol 
     
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    At times like these, I am reminded of that old saying, "A fool and his money are soon parted."
     
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    I'm about as progressive as they come, but I'm having a hard time thinking of how that differs from "send me $6,000 or more and I'll be mad at patriarchal stereotypes in video games for you."
     
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    Had anyone else read this article about the remake?

    Why the Star Wars: The Last Jedi remake should be taken (somewhat) seriously

    I came across this article about the Last Jedi remake this mourning. I thought it was a fairly accurate assessment of where Star Wars is at right now.

    Most of what I read online about the remake is simply bashing the idea, and maybe rightfully so, but this fellow seems to take in a broader perspective, and think about what it means for the future of the franchise.
     
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    It’s interesting article I just question his presupposition that something is “wrong.”
    On another note my 6yo girl likes Kylo.

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    If you mean by taking the idea in and of itself seriously...ok. Taking the remake seriously in and of itself? Nah. As for the future of the franchise, it's already rumored that Bob Eiger is well aware of the state of Star Wars as it is right now and has his own feelings on what he wants to do (though there has not been any official confirmation of said rumors). And again, I emphasize speculation because certain people with "sources" have said these things, but that info lends itself to be seen as nothing more than "HE TELL ME!" No proof. Just talk excused as "well I'm not going to give up my sources on these things." Which is understandable, but still, a healthy amount on skepticism exists on these rumors. I say, we just wait and see.
     
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    I don't believe remaking the film is the primary objective of whoever made, and promotes this remake TLJ account, not that those who support it don't want a remake. I don't personally feel it's a realistic goal.

    The remake idea getting so much attention is what is interesting about it to me, and from so many people, even within LFL. The backlash seems to keep growing, with no sign of stopping anytime soon.

    I learned of the Iger vs Kennedy news from this video:


    Star Wars has gotten to a place with too much negativity, and the fan base is too divided. If any of that is true, I hope whatever happens we get to a place where Star Wars is fun, and the majority of the conflict is fictional due to happening on screen.