MMC Nitro Convoy / Override

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Ra88, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. Robogeek28

    Robogeek28 Proud grandpa

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    I'm tempted to rebuy this gal....


    *sigh*
     
  2. Cracka J

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    This figure is fantastic. Got him in with ft rouge and even tho theres no diecast or heft here, this figure is super fun and easy to transform, looks great in both modes, and is just great to have another gf character to be around mt galaxy meteor.

    Cant believe there were even enough fans of cybertron to warrant the gender bending customs some of you have done. Both cool and...odd lol.

    Will forever be nitro convoy to me tho and wow what a great update to bring him into the mp world. Need more gf mp updates! :D 
     
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    She has a cameo in the IDW Free comic book day book Transformers Unicron.
     
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    To be honest, I've never seen Cybertron and I doubt I ever will. Cor me G1 is Marvel and IDW. So, for me Nitro is female becase IDW made Overdrive female, MMC made Nitro female, and every tiny step towards gender parity is a good thing.
     
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  5. Ellamin

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    I love her, but mine is missing something, can you see what's absent?

    I hope to get a replacement from BBTS, but I would rather keep her like this than not be able to get a replacement.

    I never expected to her to be so easy to transform either! Frankly she is smoother to transform than the jump changer original!
     
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    Ellamin Freedom is the Right of ALL Sentient beings.

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    Got a replacement for the error above. I am craving an upgraded excellion now. 0611182151-1.jpg 0611182206a-1.jpg
     
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    Finally got Nitro, ordered him/her from The Chosen Prime and the package got here really quickly.

    First of all, what a gorgeous paint scheme/paint job! Kudos to @LazyAza !

    Figure looks quite different than Rodimus in both modes, although I still would have loved to see the front bit remolded since I feel the oval headlights are one of the key character traits. Winglets are a bit loose, but it's not like they fall out or anything. My usual gripe with MMC is the lack of accessories - one measly gun is just a sad sight.

    BTW, I am unsure where (and if) to place the Autobot insignia.
     
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    I love the original Excellion mold, but I could see them doing him from their Drift or Rodimus as an exclusive or something.
     
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    Gender Parity in Transformers would suggest that the Quintessons were having lousy sales on their Security sales and selling an aweful lot of Maids and Nurse bots since a lot of them were doing roles not that far away from the Rescue Bots. (in Cartoon terms).

    In comic or a Broader Universe terms the females often seem to be associated with the smaller alt modes like Motorcycles.
    But in canon terms as a species the CORRECT demographic is for (with some overlap) the females to be 1-in-12 just as Beasts would be (roughly) 1-in-12 - that isn't a hard and fast rule as it certainly doesn't apply across the board to things like Combiners or shape-shifter types.

    But 50-50 doesn't have a reason to be at least until the post Transtech period - then if they have some sort of sexual reproduction it could evolve in that direction. but for "Manufactured sentients" 50-50 doesn't make sense unless 50% of their deities are female and only 1 in 13 of them are.

    it's way way way more complex than that but there are specific story reasons across multiple sub-continuities to have majority male/Neuter bots and not any kind 50-50 split (at most points) - At least in the majority of the Transformers Universes - it is however quite possible to apply non-standard body templates across multiple mission roles and make a 50-50 split work - but as it currently stands it would require a lot of re-writing and a lot of adding of Butch Fembots like Striker & Strongarm as a more common thing.

    But don't people like Fembots as they are slim and quick and small - but still bad ass Like Prime Arcee is ?
     
  10. LazyAza

    LazyAza MMC color go brrrr

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    At this point in time I don't think their is any need to hold true to whatever implied nature was established to the transformer lore or brand in the past and how it represented gender in its characters anymore. The franchise is defined by re-inventing itself and always trying to do something new and different with how it handles its characters and that variety and diversity has never been more important in the modern age.

    But I just want cool and fun and new and different toys all the time really. Approaching gender in a variety of ways and how it is represented in transformer design is a big part of what allows design to be better. With particular characters their are always the good ways to approach them and the bad ways, it really just comes down to your end goals though and what is considered important for any given design interpretation.
     
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    Never noticed this before, but Nitro Convoy/Overdrive kind of is the original Drift design in a lot of ways. Some different colors, but they share many similar trademark elements in helmet design and shoulders. And some other design cues across his other variations.
     
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    he should be from drift or wing if they kept it repaints, otherwise, why not make a "fast looking assault tank" hybrid for him?
     
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    Dark Nitro Convoy deco would make a nice convention exclusive colour repaint.

    As for the idea of an accessory - how about a Shield shaped like the character's Cyberplanet Key ?
    Or you could just lend them the sword and shield from the 2018 Reveal the Shield Voyager Optimus Prime.
     
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    Well, first off, I don't like the cartoon and thus it's canon plays no role in my collecting choices.

    But far more importantly, I didn't say "gender parity in Transformers." I said "gender parity." Full stop. Meaning gender parity throughout society, not just within one media franchise.

    Is having more toys of female transformers a big step? No, of course not. But the portrayal of women in media influences the way society acts towards women in the real world, and I approve of and support anything that improves that. TF fiction is driven by the toys; more female toys means more female characters. Toys of female warriors means stories about female warriors, challenging the presumption that women must be secondary, caregiver characters.

    Which brings us back to the old cartoon canon - which apparently demands that women be a massive minority with highly limited roles in society. (You seem to be saying that females must be either Maids or Nurses.) That means the writers have created an excuse for inequality - but the inequal society the canon portrays was not an accurate reflection of society even in 1984 and is certainly not acceptable in fiction or reality in 2018.

    And that is why I think MMC's choice to portray Nitro as female is a good thing.
     
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    Hmmmm....I feel weird referring to Nitro Convoy as a her. I only watched Galaxy Force and to me Nitro is like a shounen, aka young man rather than a lady.
    Anyways, dont mind me and please.dont get offended. Just my rambling
     
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    I'll give you reality, but limiting fiction (particularly science fiction) by demanding that it must adhere to the current societal norms is... limiting. Any fiction author should feel free to explore the possibilities without having to worry about being ostracized. If the public doesn't like his views, they will simply not buy/consume his or her work.
     
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    I don't remember anything in the original cartoon continuity which said females HAD to be in a minority, they just were, because, toys.

    I also don't see why there HAS to be parity. I mean nobody moans there aren't enough guys in Yuru Yuri for example even though it seems like they've been wiped off the face of the earth.
     
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    Unless I'm mistaken, Vagabond Elf is a member of the public, and that's exactly the intention being expressed... but also, by corollary, offering a commendment of MMC's choice. :) 
    Personally, I feel that since a character of similar styling appears in three places, and is female in two of them, one of which is the usual resource from which MMC pulls their inspiration with this line, it would have been the stranger choice for them to assert the character was masculine.
     
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    Oh, of course. Short of hate speech, I fully support the right of any person to write whatever they want. But I rather doubt a setting as uncounsiously sexist as - well, anything from 1984, really, Transformers is hardly unique in that regard - would find a market.

    Which is the mechanism by which the setting's unacceptabilitynwould be expressed.

    At the risk of drama, I cannot see any difference between this statement and "Why isn't there a Straight Pride Parade?" If you genuinely don't think men and women deserve to be treated equally, I've no idea how to reply. If you think I'm only talking about toys, I respectfully ask you reread my post, in greater detail. And if you don't believe that media portrayals of gender roles make no difference to how the real world acts, I suppose my only recourse is to assure you it does and offer to have some doctors of sociology comment here.
     
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