Lost Light #17 full preview

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  1. NanakoPreame

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    "Hater! Lol, learn to opinion!"


    Also, yay, LL meets LL lite. Can't wait to see more crazy hijinks!
     
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    My thought on the matter always was that if your race consists of 99.9% male or at least masculine appearing people the word "Gay" or "Homosexual" kind of loses all meaning, and when you can change shape at will (How many bodies has Screamer gone through?) then the idea of being "Trans" kind of looses all meaning too. I did think Anodes explanation a few issues back was a little on the nose but not too far off the rails that it didn't make sense. If I can change my form on a whim and have spent millennia surrounded by nothing but dudes, and suddenly find out that out among the stars are dudettes I might give it a try, there is (As we saw with Starscream) a kind of true self that a transformer will want to aspire too. We've seen a evolution in Arcee both physically and mentally. Though I admit her original characterization was hamhanded and I think hampered by a writers fear of introducing a possibly touchy subject i.e the lack of female Transformers. In the end a few of these relationships have given us some powerful moments in the series, Rewind giving up Dominus, Ravage telling Megatron not to turn back (EXPLAIN YOURSELF YOU BLASTED CAT!!) 10's wall art, Ratchet's departure, all of these moments where amazing and came out of the relationships that the crew of the Lost Light have formed. Gay or straight, Trans or merely Transformers I don't think I would have this crew any other way.

    was that "grownup" enough? I hope so.
     
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    That’s kind of exactly why I used Queer, @Aahz321, because cybertronians fundamentally can’t experience gender as we do since they don’t reproduce (in IDW’s continuity, so far...*): they’re celestial beings that snap into existence in proximity to other divine mechanica, be it Cybertron, Luna 1&2 or the rare hot spot near a wandering Titan.

    In fact, that precedent made it felt more odd when there were heteronormative pairings wandering off from Caminus :p 

    Now, of course, that’s not to say I don’t love Camiens: I obviously really do. Though, if Iron Factory is listening, it’s fine if Strafe transforms into a Protoceratops and not Queen Ghidora. I’d actually prefer that, but I really need her since I think she’s the ideal city speaker for Trypticon.

    Or, ya know, just get to Velocity soon after Slipstream, Iron Factory:D 

    *Damn you, Firstborn!

    Even if I’m rooting for the Firstborn to wind up as part Dinobot, it’s still just kinda a bit f@#$&*.
     
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    What are you talking about?
     
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    By getting along, you mean all of us having the same views and opinions, agreeing with everything everyone else said.
     
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    Thank you for your inane and invalid flailing at people who hold different opinions. We read the issue, and we're not shit-talking the issue itself at all, because it's perfectly fine and nor are we telling you how to enjoy TF material, so stop projecting. I know reading is difficult and requires such tiring things as attention to detail, lack of bias, and general respect for others, but try to at least get through it properly next time you want to sound clever.


    This is Transformers material we're talking about, so not really.
     
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    Of course not. I mean holding and stating opinions without personally attacking people or implying some sort of personal deficiency within those who hold a differing opinion.
     
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    Wait, your ramblings had a point?
     
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    Says you. I don't find Anode/Lug bland, I find them immensely entertaining.

    But that's all I see in the last couple pages of this thread - complaining about Anode.

    If you actually liked the issue, kindly inform me what you DID like about it, and maybe we can talk about that instead of more "buh huh huh anode is forced sjw bullshit" claptrap.
     
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    It's more of one poster going " you just hate her because she's trans.". Despite the fact that some of us, including me, disliked her even before the reveal. Also, this issue was more padding and reiterating things we've heard a dozen times before. Getaway's an asshole, the lost light is a "family", blah blah. Also, Nautica is a bitch.
     
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    I liked the part where the thing keeping people in thrall is their own happiness. Happiness: not even once!
     
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    or it was character building and revelations about the deepest desires of multiple characters.

    if you wanted explosions and world-building, Optimus Prime #17-18 is right over there.

    that is the worst opinion i've seen in a thread full of terrible opinions. the Skids sequence was the single most fucked-up tragic part of the entire issue - Skids was such a deep part of her life that when the "Afterspark" showed everyone their deepest desires (Cyclonus wants things to be good with Tailgate, Brainstorm wants Quark to love him, Nightbeat wants to solve the biggest mystery of all) - Nautica gave away the part of her that must have meant so much to try and get him back... and then she failed, and can't even properly appreciate the depths of her failure (which is probably a blessing in disguise, both in that she can't truly grieve his loss and also it allowed her to bypass that trap).

    That's a fantastic and compelling story!
     
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    A good honorable sentiment but impossible to actually work in practice.
     
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    Wonder if the mods can merge this with the discussion in the comic thread because this is good stuff. (Never understood why the previews ended up in news but the comic discussion ends up in comic).

    If you know that Nautica's given away her feelings for Skids, it's almost like having a loved one with Alzheimer's...they vaguely know you're connected to them, but they can't remember why and they can't appreciate why the other party has such strong feelings. After two issues full of people getting their "hearts' desire", we see what Nautica's desire was...and she can no longer appreciate that anymore. It's tragic and sad. And inadvertently it's because of that tragedy that the team will be saved.

    As a side note, it's probably illuminating that Rodimus and Ratchet never got targeted with a "heart's desire" in the way the rest of the team did. Ratchet and Nautica are effectively "seeing through" the illusions being presented because - for differing reasons - they are looking at the situation with emotional detachment.

    Meanwhile, Rodimus' "heart's desire" is something that the simulation can't provide for him - he wants to be free of the simulation. =)
     
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    I've seen it done on these forums, so not impossible - and regardless of such, I know that's the general expectation of the board. =) That being said, I've clarified what I meant so I don't know what else can be said on this sidebar.
     
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    Okay, why do you bother replying to this thread if you're going to disagree with 90% of the posts in the first place? Because clearly you're not going to even begin to try and have a conversation with others when all you're going to do is shut others down and proclaim your side as the right side.
     
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    I’m not gunna actually tabulate it, but I think there’s a mostly even split between Anode Fans and agnostics and then those fanatically opposed to Anode for any of a host of reasons.
     
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    Somebody has to be right about things around here. :cool: 
     
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    I'm pretty sure he posted an extremely nuanced and correct interpretation of why your opinion was dumb immediately after saying it was dumb (it was) which was an attempt at continuing the conversation.
     
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