What if smokescreen had become optimus prime ?

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  1. redwolfbear

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    When optimus prime died in transformers prime ssn3 how might it have played out differently if smokescreen had used the phase shifter. The forge of solus prime and the matrix to literally bond his mind body and spark to primes lifeless shellbody( the kid absolutely idolized optimus hero worship wise ain't a chance in he'll he would let optimus die without a fight) smokescreen literally sacrificing everything of his living being to give his hero new life. Using the phase shifter to turn his body intangible interphase his body with primes lifeless corpse while dual welding the powers of the matrix and the forge of solid prime to grant the prime body new life and to forcefully merge and fusion reintegrate their bodies together as a single living being with the remains of smokescreen body being the very first thing the newly reborn optimus
    Would see upon awakening

    The newly revived optimus would awaken to find the remains of smokescreen lifeless corpse and believe that smokescreen had somehow sacrificed his spark to reignite the dying embers of optimus primes extinguished spark with new life

    When the reality of the situation be somewhat grimmer and more so tragic

    The terrible truth would be that smokescreen has instead had his mind completely over written with the mind memories and life experience of the late optimus prime that is to say that the newly arisen optimus prime has the mind attitude personality and memories and life experience of the late optimus prime overwritten and imprinted onto smokescreen mind with smokescreen otherwise being in a state of permanent amnesia for the experience concerning his original life and identity and personality his mind having been reformatted for all intents in a sense While it is smokescreen spark animating the newly enhanced beast hunters optimus prime body with new life.

    The poor kid. Smokescreen Has a full on case of primus apotheothis and literally believes he is optimus prime because he has optimus primes body mind personality memories and life experience and that smokescreen died sacrificing his spark to give optimus new life but still has smokescreens daredevil maverick wild devil may care no guts no glory give them he'll nature in equal measure with the late optimus primes elderly wisdom e knowledge and life experience.

    For all intents this optimus is the ultimate pretender and does not even know it

    This combo of elderly wisdome and fiery youth will prove to be quite the devasting combo in its own right imho
     
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    First of all, TFP forum.

    Second, interesting though weird proposition.
     
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    What if punctuation was used?
     
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    Devastating indeed, to the Autobots:
    rodimus_prime__light_our_darkest_hour_by_zeromayhem-d7vv8w2.jpg

    That would be the best way to describe that idi.....I am sorry I meant Rodimus.

    And even more so, since what you describe would eventually devolve into scitsofrenia, resulting into Smoscreen turning into a G1 Galvatron like, with lucid Optimus like moments....

    Not bad of a concept.
     
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    My main problem with prime was we got so close to a new prime in that scene but it was squandered. I was hoping for a Rodimus Prime but i think that idea you cooked up is quite interesting in it own right and would have been great to see, then again the show didn't really have the time left to do either.
     
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    Considering that pretty much the entire TFP was a parade of squandered ideas...

    It sounds about right.

    This series never did anything else than teasing changes in the status quo only to go back to the status quo ASAP.
     
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    Prime Smokescreen was Hot Rod in everything but name and colour scheme.

    I even customised an oversized ko of CW Hot Rod as Prime Smokescreen.

    20170816_204746.jpg

    He was young, brash but well meaning. He also spoke of having a destiny.

    Smokescreen was a very appropriate name because that's what it turned out to be. He was written to be a parallel of Hot Rod but never got to be Prime.

    Personally I want POTP Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime to be repainted as Smokescreen/Thunderclash.
     
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    If Smokescreen got the Matrix in G1 would he have been named Smokimus Prime, or Smokimus Joint?

    Into what?
     
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    But smokescreen would have no sense of memory of his previous life as smokescreen. No personality or attitude from his time as smokescreen either


    He would fully retain his natural personal individual nature though bbut in terms of memory personality and attitude and previous life experience his mind would be a total. Blank completely reformatted with optimus primes life experience personality attitude and memories

    He would not be posing as prime he would literally be optimus in mind for all intents but with the beast hunters prime body being fully alive in its own right due to smokescreen spark animating the body with life.

    Additionally he could also re I've information subconciouselly from the former primes through his bond with the matrix and through that no d mentally interact with them and optimus through the matrix mindscape wise


    In a series se though optimus would continue to very much exist in the living world through the optimus prime beast hunters body as a sort of virtual ghost

    Beast wArs windrazor could be seen as one such example of what I am trying to describe as a idea folks
     
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    Schizophrenia. Somehow I started typing it in Greek, while I had the English keyboard on. Got carried over by my thinking.
     
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    They would have had an interesting time coming up with a name for him.
     
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    Just type in transformer machine boy on EBay. You can usually get one for €10 with free postage.

    Be very careful with the shoulders when transforming it. The first 3 I got broke.

    The last few have been fine so far. I kept buying them because they were so inexpensive and I've customised a few characters from them so far.

    Prime Smokescreen
    Stake Out. Based on a digibash I saw online.
    Runamuck. Based on the Japanese only repaint.
    Runabout. See Runamuck.
    Streetwise with a new head

    I do plan on a few more such as:

    Sideburn
    Blackjack
    Tracks. Based on a digibash I saw online.
    A few ground troopers from the Devestation game.
     
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    I'd like for one of two things to happen:


    I'd like for some leaks or news of something big to happen so "philosophical (heh) threads like this stop popping up multiple times a week or even day.

    OR

    I'd like for the OP to start one megathread for all of his/her/self's ideas, keep them all in one place.
     
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    What's wrong with the question he's asking?

    There are too many self important, condescending and just plain rude members here these days.

    If you don't like the topic, ignore the thread.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one here fed up with the bitchiness on these sites.

    I'd like for these people to learn some manners and not be so rudely dismissive of other members.
     
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    I don't think this is how the Matrix of Leadership works, though. It's a receptacle of knowledge of its predecessors, similar to G1. From the moment Smokescreen utilized the Matrix, his memories and personal wisdom would have joined with the Matrix. Instead, Optimus would now be a hybrid of Optimus AND Smokescreen, possibly resulting in some form of "DC's Firestorm", minus the ability to separate. Not tragic at all...just different.
     
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    DINGDINGDINGDINGDIND WE A WINNER FOLKS THAT BE EXACTLY WHERE I BE HOING WITH THE IDEa also botcons beast wars windrazor be a patient of the idea too