Autobot Megatrons fate

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  1. ProtectronPrime

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    "...oh boy."

    Still, what better way to redeem himself than to go around righting wrongs as well as showcase some of the colony histories we'd otherwise not get to see?
     
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    You’re treating his pacifism like it was an overnight thing. It wasn’t. He didn’t become one until after issue 47 after his violent tendencies nearly killed an innocent (Tailgate)
     
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  3. General Magnus

    General Magnus Da Custodes of the Emprah

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    I rather prefer if h stays an Autobot and if you want another Decepticon tyrant, there´s quite a few from where to choose from.
     
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    I wouldn't mind seeing Liege Maximo taking over. It's a shame that they killed Galvatron because he really was a good leader for the Decepticons with Megatron's absence.
     
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  5. Calvatron

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    For me the dark cybetron start was completely hamfisted and poorly executed. It was forced, the dialogue did not suit megatron at all, and the reasons (bumblebee is suddenly a friend?!) were shallow and unbelievable. Especially following the previous rid arc it was jarring. But i actually had no problem with megatron's change and even bonding with bumblebee. Ironic the only person to listen to bumblebee would be megatron. But the execution was crap.

    However i very much enjoyed his whole arc over season two of mtmte and felt that was executed rather well and gave a nice depth to an otherwise flat character. And it worked well with his ruthless efficiency under furman, and contempt for the old order and it's sacrimony under mcCarthy and roberts.

    I really loved his attempts to rise above his violent ways with pacifism, only to be confronted with the inescapable guilt he will always carry(the responsibility not the emotion) for the acts he has done up seeing his own statue on the necroworld, and his return to form and almost recorruption facing the djd in dying of the light. Plus ravage. Megatron's redemption arc made ravage one of my favorite characters in all of idw.
     
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  6. motorthing

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    I've always hated Megatron. Megatron the Cardboard Cutout. Megatron the Dull. Megatron because Evil. Only there because 1950's thinking in selling Toys to Boys was all there was even into the late 1980s. Good needed Evil, otherwise there wasn't anything much for Good to do. Or fight. Almost 30 years of no purpose beyond being the Anti-Optimus.

    And then The Change.

    Megaton as "sincere" pacifist and Autobot is/was wildly improbable, and got off to an awful start in Dark Cybertron, and probably had me thinking "ploy!" And "it will last up to the next writer change," however in MTMTE I've found myself both surprised and horrified at how easily Roberts made me accept New Megs AND the idea that the change could actually be sincere.

    That's amazing work. It meant somebody had finally had a look at Generic Space Hitler #35 and decided to go somewhere with a nothing character. He actually found some.

    Against all instincts to hate the Heel, the Genocidalist Nasty, I actually liked this Megatron. This Megatron actually had the crumbs of His Charisma left that could make you buy the fact that long ago He would actually have been compelling enough to get an army to follow Him into pure Hell. And do all that awful stuff. And they wouldn't all have been damaged, deranged sadists, some of them would actually have had ideals and principles. And He could lead.

    Hello good storytelling.

    Somewhere down the line will be a reset. Megatron back to Skeletor without the cackles because that's what the Brand "demands." Returns to certainty, no moral ambiguities, no confusing Anti-Heroes - just Villains. Which will be a shame because I've never cared for those characters, especially as Great Leaders. When it finally happens I just hope it's in the hands of somebody like Roberts who at least took the time and care to try and make the conversion plausible in the first place.

    I hope.........
     
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    It always surprises me when people say Megatron had a redemption arc. Did he? Despite the rushed story telling of Dark Cybertron I did feel his eventual guilt over his action in MTMTE. I also grew to understand his NEED to do something to make up for all of the things. Was he a different character than All Hail Megatron? Yes he was, but that comic was genuine garbage and I'm willing to perform whatever mental gymnastics in my head I need to do in order to get to the ACTUAL compelling character we got.

    All that being said I don't think the point of the story was to ever redeem him. In fact the book often said on multiple occasions that he wasn't able to be. He certainly deserved the chance to try and make up for his misdeeds and accept the gravity of what he did, also why he did it. The return of his old mentor and the lines he says at that moment ring quite true to me. However, in-spite of this I never thought we were supposed to forgive him. Understand him sure and maybe even empathize with him, but forgive him? See him redeemed for literally glassing over planets and slaughtering huge chunks of organic life? Maybe he wasn't the same character as AHM, but they never forgot the action he took. IDW never forgot the travesties he took part in. Jro made you care and understand the plight of a monster who suddenly realized he was a monster.

    I still feel there are far more stories to tell involving this character and this concept, plus the fact that in the end he is irredeemable. His arc was about moving past guilt more than redeeming himself for his crimes. I would be extremely disappointed if we saw a return to form with him because the last thing I want to see is the war come back in the comics. I want to see where a road like that leads because I doubt you come out the other side smelling like roses whatever you do.
     
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  8. Hastur King in Yellow

    Hastur King in Yellow Lord of Destruction

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    I think overlord could fill that role, not sure if it would fully fit in with his personality though. it might be cool if they adapted Devil Z (i know nothing about the character or series he is from) into IDW and he became the new tyrant (make him an actual transformers instead of a glowing cyst though)
     
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  9. justiceg

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    I have a feeling that part of the reason this reboot is happening is that they have no good way to “reset” Megatron back to his original “eeeeevil Decepticon” way without doing a hard reset of continuity. Same thing with re-establishing the war - sure, if they had been building to this for the last several years, maybe. But there’s no time left for them to do this.
     
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    Keep the current Megatron as an Autobot and if they absolutely must bring in a new evil Megatron then just use the G2 origin for a new Megatron.
     
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    I'm betting that Megatron is the one who ends up being the catalyst for the reboot. Basically a "Megatron, you can reset the world so that the universe lives, and you will bring back many of the races you previously slaughtered, but no one will remember what happened - including you, and you go back to leading the Decepticons."

    I could totally see IDW trying to do that as some sort of weird "redemption" deal that - since the continuity will be reset thereafter - gives them a pseudo get of jail free card re: the whole Autobot Megatron deal they wrote themselves into.
     
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    That'd be really nice IMO. I'm still kinda upset we haven't seen Megatron at all in nearly a year, so I'm hoping we see him again at least once before the series ends.
     
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    What if the whole Council of Worlds evacuates their populations into the Functionist Universe to escape being destroyed by Unicron? There's a lot of potential in a world where Optimus Prime and Megatron we're never born.
     
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    Woah, that is a great way to bring about a soft reboot! Plus, since in that timeline, Cybertron is at present day, maybe the War For Cybertron series IDW has planned will take place in that universe!
     
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    Hastur King in Yellow Lord of Destruction

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    I would not like that. if they were to get rid of a megs and a prime. they'd better have someone take there place (overlord and fortress maximus perhaps)
     
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    CowardlyZebra Regeneration One Apologist

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    holy shit WFC being in the FU is an awesome idea. now i am gonna be disappointed because they probably wont do that.
     
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    They're not likely to. Roberts confirmed that it'll be a hard reboot, but maybe that's where the reboot will happen! Think about it, what if it's a three way war between Megatron and his new Decepticon VS Optimus and the Autobots VS the Functionist Council? Even if it was with the Optimus of that universe and not the main one, I'd be down for that!
     
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    Megatron has no way (does he?,) to leave the functionist universe. Unicron is known to travel through the mulitverse trying to destroy all life and all universes(usually)

    You see where I'm going with this.....
     
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    IDW Unicron brings with him his interdimensional heralds who are all "Nightmare" iterations creating by bonding extradimenstional versions of the Nightmare Entity from the My Little Pony universe, infects Functionist Megatron, and invades Earth with Nightmare Megatron (now with Dark Alicorn altmode with a Fusion Cannon Horn) and his cronies.

    In the meantime, invaders from an alternate timeline consisting of Potato-based transformers led by Optimash Prime who are refugees from the last Transformer reality that Unicron destroyed appear and try the save another Universe from destruction by teaming up with the Visionaries. Optimash is killed in a skirmish, and Spike Witwicky uses his head as a helmet, joins the Visionaries and battles Nightmare Megatron with his newfound spirit potato powers over the skies of Detroit.

    Spike is then killed in a horrifying cupcake accident in this epic confrontation. One of Unicron's cronies, Nightmare Pie, (a victim of Em-Pie-Rata (the surgical removal of all pie)), remembers her emotions, and screams. Cheetor, who also loves pie, joins her and with the help of the heretofore unknown Ore Eleventeen collapses Unicron onto himself, thus starting the Beast Wars.


    Am I close? :D 
     
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  20. misfire19d

    misfire19d Not a writer. Not an illustrator. Just a fan.

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    I believe we have our new writer.
     
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