scucess does not mean it was a good movie, it means it was well hyped
thier was very littel good about it

 

Yes I love how the money makes it such a great film. Yet when you look at the top cash makers there are films that are pretty much forgotten now or that are not considered that great anymore Titanic, The Passion of the Christ, Independence Day, The Sixth Sense, Home Alone, The Matrix Reloaded, How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000), Night at the Museum, Twister, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, all in the top 50 yet you don't see people saying how great those films still are and some of them have people saying are kidding that movie is in the top 50 box office.

Somehow though money makes Micheal Bay a great director and Transformers will be a film that will still cut it after effects and stunts make another leap forward.

 

Alright I'm good now it is only an exclusive for 18 months then we will get blu-ray edition. YAY!

 

my...god..

 

I'm not saying one format is better or that I don't agree with you (Put it on Betamax. I don't care, I just want TF's at home), but are a couple simple reasons why a company might chose an exclusive format:

reason 1: 3 formats = Higher Production Costs. It's not like you are just copying the same info from HD-DVD to Blu-Ray to DVD. Each has to be set up a different way, making it more expensive.

reason 2: Exclusivity agreement means not only $150 Million Guaranteed, but also $ for every item sold, where as with 2 formats, you base it on sales alone. There is a risk here, but they may be betting at this time that the $150 Mil agreement will bring in more money than the Blu-ray sales might. Plus once the exclusivity is over...they can STILL get those blu-ray sales.

I agree monopolys are not good for the consumer, but there definite advantages for the company.

 

if this is repost then oh well, jsut saw this on comingsoon.net
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=36524

 

I am good now it is just temporary it is coming to blu-ray I am good now I was just upset because I did not have an HD-DVD player and I am trying to not buy anything on DVD now. No since buying a movie twice I am to just stick with Blu-ray and the movies I already own on DVD I will not rebuy on Blu-ray. Also Spiderman 3 is exclusive to Blu-ray which is dumb, money lost on their part.

 

totally understand...Personally I don't have a PS3 or Blue-Ray player. I have an xBox 360, but no add on...still DVD for me at this point...
Until I have my an HD TV of my own (the cost of that is keeping me from the HD era, not the players) I'm gonna have to stick with DVD, which I still think looks great. Once I finally have the funds to plunk down on a good HD TV, I'm hoping the format war will be concluded & I just have to buy 1 unit (though I hope it's HD-DVD at this point...just because it selfishly saves me money at this point, not beause of the capabilities of the format)

 

I prefer to say my piece a few times and be done with it, other than keeping my ear to the ground. Its not worth it to stick around for years to defend a position over a movie over and over again, especially when there's a significant number in the opposing crowd who vehemently refuse to even agree to disagree. This entire experience re:the movie has taught me that.

The reason I was initially interested in this news was because of the faint glimmer of interest in seeing the sequel. I won't make a decision, tho, until the production team is locked in. The laughter is what keeps me coming back, tho.  

--Moony

 

Waahh waah waahh waah.

Bay's a bitch, he's always been a bitch, and he will continue to be a bitch.

Does it matter to me? Not really, he's not putting any money, or taking any, out of my pocket. His outbursts, warranted or not, just make him look like a bigger fool each time than the last, and proves he just as bad as the raving internet "haters".

If he stays on for TF2, then great. If someone else does it, great. I just want a movie with more TF's and more characterization of the TF's, and less human story.

As long as we get someone who who can do that, be it Bay or someone else, let him keep being the prissy little c*** he is.

 

That's a very convenient device to insulate yourself against any circumstances contrary to your opinions.

How else are people supposed to express that they liked a movie other than paying to see it?
Channel their thoughts to some media critic?

 

I paid to see the movie, and I hated it. Most people pay to see a movie, then decide wether or not they liked it, you know, AFTER they've seen it.

 

By that logic every movie would be a blockbuster when people paid to see it and decided it sucked later. People see movies from word of mouth, and hype on how it is. I paid to see it 4 times, each one of those times I brought several people with me, they all liked it. Only one of my friends did not, and it was because of the same things I didn't. The crap human characters. Still a decent movie, overall people liked it, hence the money it made. Doesn't mean everyone that saw it loved it because their friend did, but the majority like it.

 

So are you saying that people who thought it was good are just deluded or stupid?

 

Blockbusters create interest with advertising months before the movies even get released. Once someone pays to see it, they know wether or not they liked it, not before. Why do you think blockbusters have such massive opening weekends? Media hype. People who like it tell friends, and the friends go and see it, of course. However, the other posters comment was basically that people wouldn't pay to see a bad movie, which is just untrue. Most people who went to see Transformers either liked it, or disliked it, after they paid to see it.

 

It really wasn't a BAD movie but just not great. I hoped for more Transformer development rather than the people. Also again those movie designs are just horrible. I will go see the second one no matter WHO directs it as long as they can create more Transformer character development. I would say better robot designs too but since we already have the first setting the precedent it is too much to ask for.

PS Hell I will probably see it no matter what anyway. It is Transformers afterall. Ugliest ones ever but still!

 

It was really only hyped by fans mostly. Otherwise they didn't really pour any money into the hype engine barring the ARG that again, only fans were aware of. Pepsi stuff? Fans again mostly. Although toaster bot owned. The movie's box office success? That's more than just people going once, and saying meh so so movie.

I call it a good movie, not oscar worthy, but it did it's job with a cohesive story and backstory that makes sense with what they were using. While yes the Transformers themselves weren't always in the forefront (the first film focused on the in hiding aspect, and how the decepticons are more adapt at military strategies like that than the autobots), they wanted to keep that air of mystery to it. Now the stage is set, with a director who's not afraid of giant robots unlike most in hollywood.

To YOU it wasn't good, stop stating blanket terms for a fandom who sees more in detail than apparently you do.

And btw, 1st time I went to see it was blind taste. Could go either way.

The other 8 times?
That was sheer bliss.

Titanic, death by that song. Movie was alright, but the song killed it including it's own popularity. But mostly it's that damn song being played over and over. I'll boycott any rerelease of that movie until they REMOVE that damn song.

The Passion of the Christ, snuff film, never bothered to see it. To me this ranks the same as the game Manhunt. (Yeah jack thompson! Why don't you slam this movie with that game? A snuff film, is a snuff film, be it in a video game hiding behind creative integrity of a nonexistant story or movie hiding behind religion.)

Independence Day, it's war of the worlds, all the way down to a virus being the turning point in the fight. Also awesome audio testing movie. This movie made me find out my subwoofer can shake the house on 1/16th turn of the power knob.

The Sixth Sense, still good, but once the ending is known, it's only good for a few more watches for the details.

Home Alone, nice family romp comedy, but again many of us have seen it to the point of being sick of it.

The Matrix Reloaded, it was thought crap even upon release. No question. Even though most also failed to grasp it was just another chapter in these lives in the war. It was 'crap' because it didn't have the same philisophical edge of the first one. It did connect nicely though with the others, and even animatrix and enter the matrix.

How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000), still good, but again, popular'ed to death. But still enjoyable for fans of the grinch and new viewers.

Night at the Museum, have yet to see it myself, but I still hear rave reviews from first time viewers who never bothered to see it in theaters.

Twister, this is awesome for the audio, and it was an interesting flick, while not oscar worthy, it was enjoyable and got laughs. Nothing stellar, but it is fun. And if you have THX or other high grade audio, well, it still sits in my collection next to fast and the furious for audio testing.

My Big Fat Greek Wedding, haven't seen, but plan to eventually so no clue.

Transformers, a cohesive story that holds it together, decent pacing to keep you in your seat, and sets the stage well for a decent amount of sequels. While not oscar worthy in acting, it is by no means as bad as the populer'ed to death people would like you to believe. Again, not your taste doesn't mean the world thinks the same. And as the box office standings go, these aren't people that saw it once and said 'meh'. These are people who went back several times as well. Dragging friends and more to see this cool movie they saw in theaters.
Look at how fast some of the most overhyped movies have dropped off after an initial amazing opening. And now look at the fact TF is going to IMax with not likely in slowing down in revenue generation yet. This is more than 'obsessive fans' making it a success. The casual viewer apparently liked it, and liked it enough for subsequent viewings as well. Granted maybe not to the lengths of some of us. NO one expected it to do this well, not even the alleged 'hype' machine could do that, nor expected that.

As for Spidey 3 on bluray only. That's a sony film, what do you expect?

The main thing is that people don't realize, bay may be a director. But he's still human, he's still a man. He does all the same stupid s#!t we do. If he's on a pedestal, of course he's going to fall off. Hate the man all you want, but back up why it was a bad movie if you're going to state it was bad for everyone when it's not your taste. I've heard only a few actually state why(they wanted more bot action and bot characterization, while I feel they did deliver that in the actions and scenes we did get, I see their complaint and understand it), and not just blanket fear inducing 'you actually liked that dribble?' type comments from people who seem to not undertand artwork, juxtaposition, or cinematic choices with the reasons behind it. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with what was wrong with his choices, instead of just saying "bay sucks, and you're stupid for liking it and falling into the hype machine."

I really do hope bay stays on for more, he has quite the chance to have a series on his hands that he can continue to play with the various techniques of cinematography and other film aspects to deliver the story across.

For example, while many hated the shaky camera work. It had a purpose. It was supposed to give the viewer a grasp of the chaos that's happening in it's scope to the real everyday person. It's a war of everyday vehicles turning into monstrous devastating beings blowing crap up all around you. For this first movie at least, that's a good choice. That's just one of many nuances people fail to grasp that goes into choices for a movie. Hate it or like it, I don't care, but it had a purpose is my point.

I hope Bay does indeed stay on for more sequels, the first movie is done, and we won't need the same techniques for the second one. That message was already conveyed cept to those who can't see it or grasp it. Like the visual cue of starscreams aerial dance to then betrayal by shooting megatron. Implied elements like this are abundant in things that think higher of the intelligence of the viewer. And nearly all those are hit with the same flak of 'huh?' until others explain it to them.

But if it's not your taste, no one can argue that, your taste is your taste, and opinion.

But then again, I'm also surprised the hype for 'Across the Universe' hasn't started yet either, but I still expect it to do rather well, if it holds true to the story it's telling and creative talent. This will probably be another one that's called 'overhyped' when it hits success. And the hype is nonexistant, to even being only a limited release in Sept.

 

Hahahahah... all this because of drunken typing. See people, Bay's just like us  



p.s. the HD format war is crud.

 

no, but i woudl say that some people, NOT ALL MIND YOU, but some people wanted it to be good no matter what. so they were willing to look beyond all the weak elements of the movie.all the poor character development , the awful plot, the lack of just about any connection to what came before,(aside from robots that turn into stuff)

it was a expensive , and overblown film, that sacrificed good story for cheap unnessary jokes, plot lines that didnt need to intersect(ie. the iraq war unit/ middle america suburban boy/computer hackers)

despite my hate for the design work, i did go in hoping to at least walk away entertained, and i wasnt, i was bored, something i never thought a Transformer movie would make me feel

 

I hope Bay stays on if only for this reason. Get the Bots more screen time. Show them in all stages of making war, the planning and execution stages.