The G1-Focused Masterpiece Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Superquad7, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. Max Rawhide

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    Sorry, but like others I don't buy the idea that a new Optimus Prime will be a remould of MP-10.

    It's just not possible with the current focus on cartoon accuracy. I love MP-10, but I've Always disliked the length of his legs: I think they're too short. The oversized KO, MPP-10, looks proportionately more accurate than MP-10 due to his longer legs. And this can't be solved by simply giving MP-10 some remoulding and longer legs, because then he'll be too tall.

    A v3 Optimus needs to have a slimmed down torso and longer legs to fit next to MP Megatron. And you can't achieve that by remoulding MP-10. Okay, you can if you first scale down the figure, then do the remoulding.


    Hm, no, I don't. Since MP-5 we knew MP Megatron as a gun was anything but impossible, and Coneheads were only considered impossible to be simple remoulds from MP-11 -- and the Coneheads we got were pretty heavy remoulds and honestly still not enough.

    I don't accept impossible. As Spock said, there are always possibilities. That doesn't mean there aren't things that are (very) unlikely -- like my wished for Masterpiece Nightbeat that very likely will never happen since Nightbeat doesn't exist in Japanese G1.

    But yeah, Bumblebee was deemed unlikely for the longest time and when it happened it was made clear that it was thanks to the merger with Tomy and Hasui feared that making him chibi would endanger the license.

    I think the increase in accessoiries is in part thanks to 3rd party. They included more and more and since TT has increased the number, also in part of course thanks to increased budget. Maybe especially the budget, since Sunstreaker and Megatron have made clear that TT is willing to invest money since they realise there is a market for adult collectables after all. In that light, I would especially consider Ultra Magnus illuminating. Made on such a tight budget and so incredibly cheap compared to much smaller, later releases. All indicative of TT being willing to spend more.
     
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  2. Goldimus Prime

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    Man this threas has exploded with excitement, and I haven't yet caught up with the discussion--so forgive me if these thoughts have already been postulated.

    Conspiracy theory time!

    Ideally an MP Optimus Version 3.0 in this new era of synchronized releases from Takara & Hasbro means the continental relaunch of the line!

    Larger distribution could mean they maintain the new standard of quality without increasing the prices any more than the already steep $90 for a car scale robot.

    Here's my really out there contribution:
    If they're pushing ahead and possibly FOREGOING LICENSING for the remaining carbots (Jazz, Mirage, the minibots), then MP-39 Sunstreaker functions as the transition much the same way that MP-9 was a functional transformer that scaled between both the old and new lines (Hot Rod for the old MP-1 Optimus and MP-5 Megatron, Rodimus for everything after).
     
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  3. kibble

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    After reading the initial reports I was going to say I could get on board with a V3 Prime, BUT it needs to be nearly perfect and compromise-free...at least in the proportions dept of both modes. IF the above quotes comes to be, this is an epic fail on TT's part. MP-10s legs, and more so his alt mode ass end is unacceptable for the 3rd pass at this character in this line. TW's Primorion is the score to beat right now. Admittedly, his head could be better, but his proportions in both modes look better than MP-10. If that thing wasn't inexplicably an inch taller, that would probably be my MP Prime right now. Primorion should be easily toppable, though...he's good, but not THAT good.
     
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  4. Alloy Alchemist

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    I'm really hoping and wishing for a whole new Prime mold sans trailer(to keep cost down) .
    I do really like the idea of new chest window openings as it's one of the biggest dislikes for me . The change I'd really like more is to hide the wheels in the legs.
    I'd have to say 3rd from the top of that list is either lengthen the legs some or shorten the arms OR spit the difference between the two.
    For me personally it needs to be much improved for me to by it at release or I'll just sick with my original plan of getting Toyworld's version. I'm not saying I won't ever pick up a MP V3 of Prime but it will fall to the bottom of the want list is all.
     
  5. Cyclonus79

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    I’m living by the saying . 3rd times a charm ! An because of the hype we’re going to hear story’s about what’s to come or not come and speculation to DEATH until we see what actually we’ll be getting. I say Keep your minds open , and positive.
     
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    I tell ya, since reading about this last night, I've been doing that Homer Simpson jig he does when he's excited. Hot damn!

    When MP-10 came around, I was feeling cynical about collecting in general and seeing another Prime at a price there was no way I was going to be able to afford at the time just ::blech::. Plus the thing was smaller! Why the hell would I want a smaller Prime than MP-01! Then MP-11 is another Starscream meaning Thundercracker and Skywarp? Yeah, I was out and initially missed out. Ended up getting the Toysrus MP-10 for Christmas along with their Thundercracker. I ended up REALLY liking them, despite some weird tampo choices on the latter, but what really sold me and dragged me right back into collecting was MP-12. I saw the promise then of what was to come with this line and I haven't looked back.

    I say bring on this third version of Prime. Make it be the end-all-be-all; the one that gets reissued time and time again throughout the next two decades because it's THAT good. Give him a jetpack, a flight stand, the axe, the matrix, the iconic rifle, Roller, battle damaged pieces similar to MP-36's. Make the inside of the trailer customizable with the tower thingy able to be detached and replaced with the turret thingy from those random appearances. Also, either a swappable grill piece with a reflection of Thrust in it OR make a space in the grill where you can insert a piece of paper like the windshield/chest inserts that Ironhide/Ratchet have that create a lenticular effect of Decepticons reflected in the grill?

    I'm super excited and probably going to be humming Stan Bush tunes until we see more of this. If Jazz gets revealed along the way, I might actually start to emit a Matrix-like light!
     
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  7. Backpack

    Backpack G1 forever.

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    Optimus Prime, Jazz, Skyfire.... and wasn't Huffer mentioned too? G1 is heaten up again. I bet we'll be seeing Dinobots and Constructicons by 2020.
     
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    Hasbro releases a Prime 3.0 what fo they pair with to encourage sells. Takara will promote mp36 to go with a new prime or why you should get a new prime, but what will Hasbro offer? Wouldnt be surprised see a Decepticon next year. Though I doubt TT empties the banks and releases Galvatron, would Hasbro release a Shockwave or heaven forbid a new Starscream. I just dont see what big name Decepticon left that Hasbro feels they could market as a foe for prime.
     
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    When you stand MP-10 next to MP Megatron they just don't seem to match. We need a more animation look for Prime to match.

    IMHO, MP-10 actually looks best standing next to Appolyon... their proportions and style seem to match the most.
     
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  11. Sinestro00

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    OK, just got caught up on the thread after ~10 hrs away from it. Here are some of my ramblings scattered about in multiquoted posts:

    Fore me, this item, if true, gives me some relief. I would like to see a completely new v3 OP in principle, but it gives me heartburn in terms of my collection. My ultimate goal is to have a somewhat museum-quality collection that chronicles the MP line that started with MP-10. Is it perfect? No, but it did mark the expansion of the line beyond MP-1, 3, 8, and 9, so it is important in that regard. I usually get two of each release to display in bot and alt modes. Right now, I have 5 of this MP-10 mold: Takara MP-10, the 1st release Hasbro version, YOTH OP, Shattered Glass, and MP-10B. These will all look great together in the OP section of my display, but I am torn over how a 100% new OP mold will fit. With the rising costs of MPs (justified, IMO), and given that I have 5 Primes already, I'm probably only going to get one of these, whether it's 100% different or some flavor of MP-10+.

    If it's a slight remold, I'll be able to have them all together, similar to what I do with the other '+' versions. For me, it will will look 'off' to have one OP in my display that's completely different from the 5 others I have, so I might be tempted to get rid of some of my MP-10s. I will probably need to do so at a significant financial loss, given the 'new hotness' this rumored release will have, and I'm not willing to do that. Don't get me started on MP-11, which I have 14 of in some shape or another (V3 seeker rumors give me the willys).

    Long story short: I had plans, and Takara may just tear up the page and throw the pieces in my face. First world problems, I know.

    This would definitely make a 100% new mold easier for me to swallow. Although, as@Dean ML has pointed out, there are some changes that could be made to the trailer as well.

    Dean, you and I seem to have had the same journey toward MP collecting (starting with movies, then CHUG, finally settling on MP), but I'm going to respectfully provide a counter-point here. It may be a great jumping on point for new collectors, but do their numbers outweigh existing ones? How many people would buy a 100% new mold over MP-10+ if they already have multiples of MP-10 (I need to check the poll for the thread for this guy over in the rumor section)? Again, I'm not saying that I'm completely against a 100% new Optimus Prime, but it may make better business sense for them to go the MP-10+ route to avoid pissing off those with existing collections (mainly completionists like me) and offering it without a trailer to keeps costs reasonable (MP-1 was first released without trailer, so it's not without precedent). I wish I had your resolve and focus in my collecting habit. What do you plan on doing with MP-10 if this rumor ends up being a 100% new MP Optimus Prime?
     
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    So are we going to expect + versions of Bluestreak, Smokescreen, Wheeljack, and Bee after the V3 Prime comes out? And has there been any mention of Jazz yet? Someone mentioned in another post that they already showed designs for Jazz but I'm not believing it until we have more evidence that we will get Jazz so we can finally put the "no war toys" thing to rest.
     
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    You're probably more likely to see a chibi bee at this point if they are going that route for the others minibots. I would guess yes on past carbots getting + treatment. I figured characters like prime and Starscream who had never received painted plus versions were just more likely to get newer versions.
     
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    Celebrating 35 anniversary with a pathetic remold would be some coooold slag.
     
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    That would be an exorbitant number of releases in a twelve-month period. I think MP45 as the new Optimus is more reasonable.

    Of course, if he is just a remold, could he just be MP10+?

    I'd go back to Inferno as that "transition" figure. Engineering seemed to take a leap forward, any design cues from the toy or the real-world vehicle were left out for greater cartoon accuracy, and it's also the intro time for the + releases.
     
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    What's so appealing about blocky and plain robots modelled on a badly animated cartoon from 30 years ago? Serious question.
     
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    Oh I don't know....perhaps personal opinion and nostalgia?
     
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    To have it look like the show we adored? I mean, screen accuracy is always a goal in almost every toyline.

    That's why SOC does it so well, and is able to charge a pretty penny for it, too.
     
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