How to tell the new KO Reissues apart from authentic toys.

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by JunkersHVN, Mar 15, 2007.

  1. aphall

    aphall New Member

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    ditto. I recently bought a Vintage G1 Prime off of ebay, and I'm having a hard time sleeping not knowing if my prime is real or not. I bought him loose, and looking at the cab, I can't seem to find the Takara mark. This tells me that I may have a fake. The trailer's mark is easily identified. Here are some photos:

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    Also, I had the seller throw in two more TFs... Scattershot and Hubcap. I have photos of their marks below:

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    Please tell me which are fakes and which are real. If anyone has a photo of the OP mark and is willing to post, it'd be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
  2. e3nine

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    ^ real.

    The trailer stamp on the fakes state "MADE IN FRANCE".

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  3. aphall

    aphall New Member

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    Thanks! So the trailer is real, but the cab?
     
  4. e3nine

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    I'll need to check when I get home ... I'm almost sure that if your trailer says "Made in France", you should have a Prime with red feet.

    For someone to get a KO Prime and match it with a non KO cab ... not very likely. Check their eBay feedback. If they sell lots of Primes, it's possible.
     
  5. aphall

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    Yeah, I think it would be highly unlikely to combine a KO cab with an authentic trailer. I just freaked out after reading someone's ebay buying guide to transformers. It said that the mark on the cab should be on the inside of one of his legs. Another guide said that KOs sometimes don't have any manufacture marks on them at all, and since my cab has no marks (except for the number 4 on the back of Prime's head0, I got a little suspicious. However, the Prime I have seems played with gently, so I can't tell if it's a gently played with KO or an original.

    As for the guy's ebay rep, I was his first customer. He said in his ad the following: "You are bidding on a vintage G1 Transformer Optimus Prime Cab and Trailer. This is a toy I played with as a kid and it was in my parent’s attic for 22 years. He is fully intact and transformable. He appears to be missing all additional accessories (gun, sword, missile, cart, etc.). Some of the stickers are worn or missing. Some of the joints are loose, but is still easily transformable."
     
  6. Might Gaine

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    I don't know if people are aware of this yet, but it looks like the KO-makers have been adjusting the KO Optimus...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1...oryZ4696QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    This one has a heavilly reduced gray border above the trailer, it has the chest stripe, and it looks like they may have gotten rid of the factory flap crease. Bleh.

    Edit-- Also trailer now has "Made in Japan" instead of "Made in France"
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1...oryZ4696QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
     
  7. keebs

    keebs 32 Oh-Zee Killah

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    Ages 3 and up says about a month away from KO Mirage in hand. What about KO Wheeljack and Sunstreaker? Any ETA on Slag and Sludge? I remember getting an email back in the spring from a guy in China saying Mirage would be shipped in April/ Late May. I'm guessing some of these guys might not be done until late next year.
     
  8. e3nine

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    I noticed that MiJ tag on a Prime KO too.

    I really think there are multiple groups working these now, it's not just the MiF mold anymore. I'd like to get my hands on one of these and take a look at prime's wheel pegs and such.

    Either way, there's still some differences left ... starting with the registered trademark sign over the "S" in "Formers" ... that's way too high.

    Also, what gives with that prime? The windows are absolutely clear. I could swear that my original has a yellow tint to it.



    From what I know ... Mirage is being sold though 1 seller until September. At that time, it'll be released to other vendors.

    I'm guessing this is done to gauge a fair MSRP considering these guys have no idea what the public is willing to pay vs under charging vs over charging ... etc.

    Wheeljack and Sunstreaker looked very rough from the images out there (From Spirit-Of-Cybertron). There are 2 dinobots closer to completion than those.
     
  9. ScottyP

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    That's legit.

    and sexy.

    so damn sexy.
     
  11. The621

    The621 Fuck you, that's why!

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    Dude... That's from Diaclone. It was before the time Transformers came around.
    Truth quoted. Though it's expensive. And I'm not the type to buy expensive stuff like that. That's for Mike and vnutz.
     
  12. Soot

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    What happened to everyone here? the KO mirage is out already.
     
  13. jazz007

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    hi... i am new to this forum.. but currently i am afraid of getting cheated by ebay sellers too.. thus this topic definitely helped me a lot.. but currently is there any guide for rumble/ravage and frenzy/laserbeak to differentiate the KOs and the vintage?
     
  14. teepo112

    teepo112 Well-Known Member

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    Has there been any KOs made for the Encores?
     
  15. jazz007

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    As of now is a no..
     
  16. Soot

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    No point getting KOs for those released for the Encore series. I m sure I am not the only one who would gladly fork out if Hasbro/Takara where to do what the KO ers are doing like the cassettes.
     
  17. teepo112

    teepo112 Well-Known Member

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    I was just wondering if KOs of the encores were being made so that I would watch out to not get them by mistake.
     
  18. SureShot90

    SureShot90 Peace=superior firepower

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    Why is that a fake ? it's made by Joustra France and is a Pre-tf, Diaclone 'Joustra' Convoy. In France, the Diaclone Battle Convoy saw release thru the Joustra corporation and some of those trailers got to be used in TransFormers.
    http://www.geocities.com/futuristgroup/vfrance.html
     
  19. e3nine

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    umm. it's fake because that's my own.

    also, it's completely black.
     
  20. SureShot90

    SureShot90 Peace=superior firepower

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    Well ok it's hard to see it's black of the picture. Because i have a Joustra made Prime with trailer (sliver-aluminium colour) + a Joustra Robotech VF-1J.
    Didn't know there were K.O's of Joustra's:peoples: