Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi

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  1. General Magnus

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    One thing bothers me. In the original trilogy, in the Empire Strikes Back, despite the empire winning in the film, there was still an organized movement, there was still a Rebel Fleet and there still a Rebellion Military command. Here, the entire Resistance fits inside the Falcon and every ship and fighter they had is gone. Oh and their supposed allies told them to fuck off via silence.

    The next movie is going to have to be long enough to explain how the heroes rebuild their military forces and still have time to defeat the First Order. The writers here wanted to copy the ESB setting and forgot the details of the thing.
     
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  2. flamepanther

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    Assuming JJ very suddenly feels like explaining stuff, anyway.
     
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    Finn cant get rid of that bitch.
     
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    Lost was an absolute mess and there is no way in the world I would try to argue it was a good series. But I did not see the same problems in Alias, Fringe, or his Star Trek movies. Those all turned out fine. If ALL of his work was like Lost then I would agree with you. But all his work is NOT like Lost.

    I’ve got no personal beef with you. I think we both have issues with Disney’s Star Wars, we just disagree about where to place the blame. The only reason this even matters to me is that I want the blame to rest where it should and I do not feel that JJ Abrams comes even close to deserving the bulk of the blame for the train wreck that is Disney’s Star Wars. I believe JJ was a man who was hired to do a job and he did the best he could in the time he had.

    Far more blame rests on Rian Johnson for creating a movie that practically ignores the movie that preceded it. And the largest bulk of the blame rests on Kathleen Kennedy. She's the one who's truly running the show and has the final say on everything .
     
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  5. Gordon_4

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    Personally I’m hoping Ahsoka turns up with some old Venator-class cruisers and shit.

    What? It could happen :p 
     
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    What I want to know is where do they keep finding enough hardcore fascists to staff their ships and shit? I mean does the GFFA have a massive tilt towards it or something?
     
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  7. RabidYak

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    You could round up a Star Destroyer full of terrible and/or gullible people on social media in a couple of hours on this planet, so I don't think it's much of an issue when you have a whole Galaxy full of humans to recruit from.
     
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    Huh? What? Come again? The writers according to you wanted to "copy" ESB but forgot the details? What details did they forget?

    First of all we don't know who their friends are or how powerful they are or why they didn't come. And who says you need a giant military to defeat the FO if anything SW has continually proposed exactly the opposite.
     
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    Well, the Falcon is a hell of a ship but she can’t take out fleets by herself. They’re gonna need a bigger boat; and a few of them.
     
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    The whole thing is hilarious Rian shakes things up by stripping the "Resistance" down to a core team and all but forces JJ to make them something other than the "Rebels." And we get a "why isn't it more like ESB", while at the same time complaining it's too much like ESB.

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  11. Blackout32

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    Anyone have a idea when you think this will be up for pre-order of blu-ray/ dvd. I missed my chance to get to see this in theaters so I'll have to wait to see this on blu-ray.
     
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    It already has been. I preordered mine from Best Buy a couple of weeks ago.
     
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    I noticed, rewatching the fight scene between Rey, Kylo and the Praetorian Guards, that besides the first few scenes in the fight nearly all of the guards are focused solely on Kylo Ren, since he's the one that killed Snoke; Rey never faces more than one opponent at once, and gets a nasty slice on her arm, while Kylo takes on the entire guard and emerges unscathed.
     
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    I have the 3D Blu-Ray already pre-ordered on Amazon since last year.

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    It was uploaded in December, but I only noticed it now - apparently Spoony took the time from his busy schedule of leeching of his Patreon funders while doing nothing but mute let's plays to share his opinion on the movie.

    Get this, his Holdo-hair-colored girlfriend actually loves Rose, and thinks she is the best character in the movie... also despite watching the movie multiple times, they misinterpret Rose's stupid ramming into Finn as her trying to sacrifice herself instead of him. WTF?
    Spoony liked the movie overall, just thought it could have been done better. He goes off on a long tangent about how he wanted Luke to become the villain and go after Rey and Kylo when they join forces, thinking they both fell to the dark side. Completely missing the point that yeah, Kylo is a lost cause now, sheesh - Luke wanting to kill him would not make him evil, it's the right thing to do when said evil person threatens to the destroy all your friends and enslave the galaxy.

    Spoony does point out that them even fighting after Snoke died was pointless- they failed at their bloody job, and they should have just shrugged and professed their loyalty to Kylo. It all would have worked better if Snoke, I dunno, retreated or teleported away, leaving Kylo and Rey to battle them. Why would they be so loyal to this guy? 'cause he pays them and gives them art deco uniforms?
     
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    First Order soldiers were basically brainwashed since birth to be totally loyal to the Supreme Leader, and to the Order in general. The Praetorian Guard were the elite of the elite, hand-picked by Snoke for their skills and loyalty. There was no way they weren't going to try to avenge their master's death. Besides, I think Kylo Ren wanted as few witnesses to his assassination of Snoke as possible, so he could solidify his position as the new Supreme Leader.
     
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    I had a hard time swallowing Maul's return - was it ever explained how the hell he survived without medical aid with his spine and most of his internal organs below the belt missing? I mean his species looks humanoid, I assume he has the same organs humans do... Now if they pull the same with Snoke, that'll be hard to swallow. Huggs even pushed over his body, he was clearly dead. Unless they suddenly decide the EU is indeed canon and Snoke was just a clone of Palpatine.
    Phasma should come back, and then she should die the same way Shiva died in Mortal Kombat II, have a cage fall on her unceremoniously after 5 seconds of screentime. Seriously, hate how much the media hyped up her character only for her to continue NOT doing anything important for 2 movies. The comparisons with Boba Fett are unjust because Boba was a cool looking minor character whom fans liked and writers expanded upon his backstory - AFTER the movies. Phasma was hyped up and had tons and tons of merchandise - BEFORE even she appeared on screen. I think the comparison with Grievous is more apt, because much like that epic failure, they got tons of hype prior to their appearance, and then continued to fail to hold up to expectations. At least Grievous had a (then) canonical apperance where he was badass prior to his appearance in the movies.
    They have? Wow, then fire that group, pronto.
    Seriously, how can a giant company fail with internal continuity of their biggest franchise, is beyond me. Even the prequels were better planned than this... though yeah, they had to be since we all knew where the characters would be at the end of episode 3.

    Or maybe they won't win? I can totally see Disney simply continuing to milk the franchise and just making this a quadrology or pentology or whatever, and continuing to churn out movies with the same cast and the same throwaway logic when it comes to an ongoing plot. I mean, the movies are still incredibly profitable for them.
     
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    I want Phasma only if they can do anything with the character. Otherwise - don't bother.
     
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  19. General Magnus

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    I doubt it, Disney want to play it safe and well what´s more safe than having the good guys win at the end? Besides, the probably next trilogy that follows this won´t be connected to the current one in any way.
     
  20. Prime17

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    The planets that are/were part of the New Republic have their own militaries so I'm assuming by Episode 9, the Resistance is able to convince them to join together. Kind of like how American Patriots had to concince the 13 American colonies to join their individual militias together in order to fight the British.