POTP Wave 2 In Package Images

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Type-R, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. Deathcatg

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    As for now, Snarl, Sludge, Moonracer, Elita-1, Novastar, and surprisingly the rest of the Pretender Primes. The Pretenders are one case where I might have overlooked them except for their backstories. Secondary would be the Terrorcons and the Leader classes. Those would depend on how good fiances go this coming year, and availability for the Leaders.

    On a unrelated note, after seeing the Alpha Trion symbol in the thread's opening post, a part of me is considering picking up a second one and repainting the diamonds in Harley Quinn colors.
     
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    Yeah I love my G1 Dinobots.....but that's the last time the whole crew got an update and in Slag and Sludge's case only figures in general. The fact we're getting them at all is a miracle.
     
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    I think thats becuase they combine.
     
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    Parents are more likely to buy their kids all the dinobots if only one is $25 and the rest are $16 or less. If they were all $25 dollars not a lot of parents are blowing $125 plus tax for little Timmy or Billy to finish the set.

    Not to mention then we wouldn't be getting 4 other voyagers that they'd be taking the spots of. You're only looking at this from your collector perspective & not an everyday kid / parent / Hasbro marketing outlook.

    In a perfect world I too wish the Dinobots got the all voyager box set instead of the Predacons (and they got the traditional 1 voyager, 4 deluxe setup), but alas. Besides, then it'd just be the Predaking fans up in arms & whining.
     
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    What I don’t get though with your reasoning ( and I think your right ) is if this is for the kids , then where is the media tie in . No media tie in , makes it quite difficult for kids to care .
     
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    The Dinobots were in the last 2 TF movies. They've been some of the most popular TF characters since the very beginning in the 80's. They've been in multiple cartoons & video games. They're probably going to be in the Power of the Primes show that's coming out later this year. They may be in the Bumblebee movie out this year (but probably not) and they may be in TF 6 that's in the works rn. They're in Rid too, right? There's even Dinobots in Rescue Bots (sort of). Kids know who the Dinobots are. My stepson is 7 and knows, and my 3 yr old daughter knows. Neither of them watch Transformers.
     
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    1. Totally different designs, and
    2. what kind of parent is taking their kids to see the movies those movies are NOT for kids under 13 years old. And if they are over 13 years old then are they really buying toys still ?

    again totally different designs, kids want toys of what they see on tv or in games, they dont want what we would consider a name slap on a character that hardly resembles the toy.


    they indeed will be, the voice cast has been revealed and they even got berger coming back to do grimlock. BUT its a 10 minute thing for 10 eps only on an obscure internet tv thing, yes it gets a little better exposure when they do put it on you tube. but still 10 minute eps, for 10 weeks only . thats not going to catch the attention of kids for long. Maybe for us it will but kids. Plus that show isnt entirely kid friendly.


    again the movies arent for kids under 13 AT LEAST, maybe older, if your taking your kids to see the movies and they are like 8, then I think the parent needs some counseling.

    And again, completely different designs, Kids do not want a toy that doesnt resemble what they see on screen.

    again GREEN GRIMLOCK only and he doesnt look anything like these toys

    completely different characters AND designs

    And my kids and all their friends are like WHY IS GRIMLOCK grey and not green ? who are these other guys ? its not whats on tv ?

    Back to my original point, Who is hasbro making these toys for ? your reasoning for why they are deluxe and not all voyagers is exactly right but it makes no sense whatsover when you think about what is hasbro doing with their media tie ins.

    I would not be caught dead letting my kids watch those movies before 13. Kids know a green grimlock, they know rescue bots can turn into dinosaurs, they really have no clue what these 80s designed dinobots are.

    They might know the name/term dinobots but its not matching up with what they are seeing on Rescue bots or RID . and again God I hope no parent is taking their kids to see the bay movies under 13 and if the kids are older then are they really buying the toys ?
     
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    I wouldn't be caught dead bringing ANYONE to see those movies, but hey that's just me. ;)  Unfortunately tho, A LOT of parents took their kids to see them, that's why they kept making so much money, so many sequels, and so many toys.

    All of your arguements about them not looking exactly as they do in whatever media is moot. Robot dinosaurs will never NOT be popular with kids. No matter how much collectors either try to ignore or want to believe it's not the case, we are but a drop in the bucket in terms of total sales.

    My point anyways was this; the Dinobots have had sooo much exposure over so many years, over so many different forms of media(tv, comics, movies, video games, toys, & soon a web series) that they are ingrained into pop culture & children's brains. They're on t-shirts at school, on lunch boxes, back packs. I've seen at all my local stores that they are the first to fly off shelves while Jazz, Dreadwind, and everybody else linger.

    The $10 Slash or the $16 Swoop / Slag is the gateway drug. Of course Grimlock the most popular is also the most expensive (but hey $25 isn't THAT bad, and kids gotta have their T-Rex). After that of course kids will want to get the rest. Hasbro knows what they're doing (sometimes, heh).

    I'm not saying these weren't / aren't made for collectors in mind too, of course they were. But overall sales depend on the casual buyer & kid / parent sales demographic, and 5 voyagers is just less affordable & palatable to them. Even if they did a 5 voyager box set, they still wouldn't sell as well. It'd take up more valuable shelf space instead of easy to restock pegs, and we've all seen how trying to get Trypticon, Chaos on Velocitron, etc at retail has gone for a lot of people...
     
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    All of them. Robocop wasn't a movie for kids, but you can bet a hell of a lot of kids saw it and bought toys from the line made specifically for them. I saw the first 3 live action movies under 13 and I sure as hell wanted toys of them.

    These movies are definitely not made solely for an older audience.

    And yes the designs may be different, but they're still robots that turn into dinosaurs that are grey, so I think most people can make a link, even if they're like 5 or 6 years old. As someone who grew up on G1 and Cybertron cartoons, I was eager to try and make out which characters were who in the new movies in relation to the old ones, to moderate success.
     
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    Are you really trying to argue that kids don't want transforming robotic space dinosaurs? No matter what they look like? Ok, different designs... Uh, so what? The movie Dinobots don't look like the Rid Dinobots and neither of them look like any of the others. These DO look like the G1, animated, comic book, and numerous video game Dinobots, and for many that'll be enough (again, aside from the fact they're DINOBOTS is enough alone).

    Are you really trying to imply that no kids will want these? Or that the only people buying them are 35 ~ 50 year old G1 fans? Because not only is that laughable & naive, but these bots are flying off shelves dude. And it ain't just because of us.

    This is the final toy line in the Prime Wars trilogy. Kids AND collectors are primed (I'm so sorry) and ready for whatever is coming out.
     
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    ^Exactly.

    Finally... See? This guy gets it.
     
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    seriously, your reading comprehension is terrible guys. You totally missed the point in what I was saying and quite frankly it is not worth my time replying to this anymore.
     
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    Well, I was originally just replying to the guy complaining about the Dinobots saying voyager sized should be the baseline minimum.

    I get that your point is basically "There's no media! Who are these for?? My kids don't know who Grimlock is unless he's green! So no other kids will, or want them", I just disagree.
     
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    thats a bit closer !

    let me fix this for you so its easier for all to understand


    SOME kids don't want a Grimlock unless he's green or looks like what they see on the screen on tv or the movies! So SOME kids will not want them".

    You used MY kids so I demonstrated that SOME kids ( by using MY kids AND their friends ) DON'T want a toy that looks nothing like what they see on the screen. Many Kids would PREFER a screen accurate/resemblance toy to a toy that looks NOTHING like what they are used to seeing on screen.

    Not many kids want a black haired luke skywalker in a pink dress

    Hasbro seems to want to straddle the line between collectors and kids with the Prime trilogy line, which is fine, no problem, I think its great and probably the best way to go with things PERSONALLY. But when there is little to NO media tie in for the toys I am left scratching my head on what market they are exactly aiming for.

    I am not going to comment any more on this. We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. Not going to hijack this thread arguing about it.
     
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    I find this whole concept of screen accurate toys amusing considering the toys I had when I was growing up. The Box said it was Bumblebee and I knew bumblebee was on the cartoon and that was good enough for me.
     
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    Yeah, but times and standards change. When a kid can look around the toy aisle and see toys that ARE screen accurate, they're going to come to expect that they're all screen accurate.

    You may have also only had 5 channels on a small CRT TV growing up, doesn't mean kids today are going to be ok with that.
     
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    POTP contains way more mpreg than anyone ever wanted

    The toys look great but I don't use the hand parts as My First Diaper accessories. They look much better used as buckler-style shields.
     
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