TakaraTomy Power Of The Primes Wave 2 And Wave 3

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Shin Densetsu, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. deathzero23

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    Is it wrong for a toy company to decide what's best as a company first (by being practical as they see fit)?
    Or is it a wrong decision just because the consumers are butt-hurt?

    This is becoming Maker vs Consumer debacle thing...
     
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    Or maybe all of this is just talk and people venting and nobody is being "whiny" or expecting anything from anybody.
    And we will see what happens in regards to Takara's viability and their need to attract adult collectors.
    But for now people are just expressing their hopes and feelings and perhaps reacting against their disappointment and being dismissive of their feelings is a bit petty.
     
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  3. maltesefalcon

    maltesefalcon stuff dreams are made of

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    its the little things that make takara much better, if this is the ongoing trend think of the things that will change. no gray astrotrains, Hasbro using their creamy grey plastic as silver, miscoloured joints, the dreaded stickers.

    my biggest issue is the lack of unite warriors boxsets distribution in the uk is a pain we didn't even get wave two of combiner wars deluxes and they totally skipped wave 4 of titans return deluxes. I was only able to get a full set of combiners (mostly still need victorion grand galvatron devastator and megatronus) due to the unite warriors. will the same thing happen again and ill only get half of abominus? with no wayto get alternatives other than importing individually it doubles sometimes triples the price
     
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    Eh? Kup, Perceptor etc got a wide distribution.

    Do you mean wave 5: Windblade, Twin Twist & Misfire?
     
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    maltesefalcon stuff dreams are made of

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    yeah, those were the ones. perceptor is still shelfwarming here and dont get me started on the titan masters
     
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    Not really, depending on your location. I had to fly to Texas to see either of them in stores.

    People are fallible. If corporations are people, then corporations are fallible. Argument from authority never really works on me, especially when said authority is motivated to hide information.

    I really don't see this working out. With a falling birth rate, I wouldn't expect them to pick up many kids (relatively speaking) even _if_ prices were markedly reduced (they're not), and, at the other end, collectors in Japan have plenty of premium options to choose from if Takara's turning them away. Here in the US, the prevailing attitude of many industries is "you'll get what you get when you get it." As a result, most stores here are basically landfills with a roof over them and we're desensitized as if that's the way it has to be.
     
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    I never bought any of Takara’s stuff and I’m sad about the lines unifying. It was kinda cool knowing that if you had a preference for Cartoon vs ‘84 toy colors you had an option. With the lines unified, I guess those days are over.
     
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  8. [Wing_Saber-X]

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    Exactly!
     
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  9. deathzero23

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    We'll just have to wait if this "brand unification" will benefit Tak-Tom in the long run.
    Or if it'll backfires on them and fails. And by that time, I guess that's the right time to say...

    "I told you so"

    But for now, most of us here are expressing opinion from a customer's / buyer's point of view.
    Did anyone here ever expressed their opinion based from a toy company's point of view? And made the haters agree?
    Anyone?
     
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    ^This. This hasn't been brought up enough.

    Birth rates in Japan aren't just falling, they're free falling & plummeting. I recently just watched a series of YouTube videos regarding this, and they all pointed towards Japan's economy, society, and country itself on the edge of an aging bubble about to burst and collapse in the not too distant future.

    Virtually no one is getting married or having kids there anymore. The nation already has the oldest overall population, highest percentage of people over 60, and it's only projected to keep increasing for the next 20 or thirty years, at which point many think it'll be far too late & unsustainable. Many worry it already is. I highly suggest you guys look it up on YouTube, it's fascinating really. But it definitely doesn't bode well for Takara, transformers, or anything else there. /:
     
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    Maltese Falcon and I are both in the UK, made clear by the post I was replying to. W4 Deluxe were widely sold here through ASDA (UK version of Wal*Mart)

     
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    It's not even the accuracy I will really miss, that's just a bonus. But it is paint detail. Things like wheels, windshields, headlights, etc almost always get the proper treatment from them. Hasbro almost always doesn't give them the proper treatment, leaving alt modes to look pointless and unreal. I don't really care if there are some variations in a figure to a certain extent - I just want it to look good. Especially since TF's tend to be expensive purchases. Why should I invest in a line where even half the figures look bad? I won't.

    I will say that while things have looked dour at points before, they can come back around. I still hold out hope for something coming down the pike and that we haven't seen the last of the company that seemed to care about us.
     
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  13. [Wing_Saber-X]

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    Truth.
     
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    I would love to down vote this post :)  and funny how guys like you claim us to be "takara master race", when none of us ever claimed to be better than anyone else, just because of our collecting habit. Inferiority complex much? :p  No further questions.
     
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    Yup. Because we can afford imported toys and some cant. The way the world works. Oh well...
     
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    Disregarding the fact for some of us it's cheaper to import the takara figure, than buying the Hasbro figure locally.

    I can import two takara deluxes for the price one Hasbro deluxe costs in store.
     
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    Me too.
     
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    The situation isn't all smiles and sunshine in the US either. Unlike Japan with its strict immigration policies, we've covered up our falling birth rates by looking the other way at the Mexican border. I don't know a nice way to say this...but it's that border specifically because south of it is the poorer half of the Americas. Cheap labor doesn't buy as much stuff. Cheap labor also depresses wages across the board so all people that work for a living (ie - not shareholders and executive boards) have their buying power reduced to some degree.

    Further...if corporate analysts are foolishly counting those people (paid below minimum, under the table, and remitting large portions back across the border) as being on equal footing with their established customer base and simply increasing production numbers linearly, that will stuff the retail channels and lead to oversupply that customers then take as a signal to wait for clearance at Ollies...
     
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    I practically buy third party and Takara items because Hasbro stuff looks cheap. The last toy that I bought was from Hasbro was Legend Jetfire the 30 anniversary one.

    As for the US there is a lot of problems economic and population but the develop countries are having decrease birth rate. Some women are opting not have children. Aside there is a massive reform on the Education side and job training.
     
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    I was talking about this with a bunch of my latino relatives recently. On my father's side, I have 40ish cousins, on my mom's? One. We're outbreeding you folks. It's that simple.