Over dramatic much? It’s a non show character so they’re playing a little looser.

As has been stated, this particular body was not in the show, tigatron was, that’s the difference. Shadow panther has no source to be accurate to except that he’s a cheetor repaint, tigatron on the other hand has a character model from the show (where masterpiece directs 99% of its accuracy) that is very clearly a tiger

 

Over dramatic? Because I think a panther should look at least somewhat like a panther? I don’t share your or someone else’s opinion, so that somehow translates to me being over dramatic? Strange.

Look: As it stands, the original deluxe toy looks more like a panther than this thing does.

 

If Takara was going to take the time to *retool* Cheetor why would they waste that time and effort on Shadow Panther when he has no other representation across media as anything other than a Cheetor repaint?

MP-34S is precisely what they needed. A way to quickly and affordably reuse the Cheetor mold. Much like the numerous Seeker repaints and much like the numerous black Prime/Convoy repaints that get rebranded as "Nemesis Convoy" or whatever the heck he goes by. This despite Nemesis never turning into half the things he's been sold as.

If you're complaining about not getting a retooled version of Cheetor, save your breath and let Takara save the time/effort/resources for where it'd really count: MP Tigatron.

And then brace yourselves, because it's increasingly likely MP Dinobot will be repainted as MP BW Grimlock and you'll feel compelled to go through this whole mess all over again.

 

Honestly, wouldn't be shocked if Takara originally considering something that looked a little more toy accurate before realizing the difference (even with accessories) wouldn't attract enough interest and thus scrapped it for the more obscure reference.

Gotta love those black repaints.

 

Beast Wars Grimlock is supposed to be the same Deinonychus/Velociraptor/Utahraptor (whatever Hasbro thinks it is) as Dinobot. That’s a different situation.

Takara didn’t NEED to repaint this mould.

If they were going to do Shadow Panther, It would’ve made more sense to retool
Cheetor into Tigatron first, then make modifications to the tiger beast mould to more closely resemble a panther. At least we would’ve gotten something closer than... this.

This is a quick, lazy cash grab.
I’m not faulting Takara for trying to make money. After all, that’s what the point of all this is. But let’s call a spade a spade, and not pretend this is the perfect execution that everyone wanted.

 

Well at least you're admitting you don't know what you're talking about.

The alternative to a repainted cheetah wasn't a retooled cheetah. It was no Shadow Panther.

Stop whining, it's really unbecoming.

 

Are you able to have this discussion without resorting to childish insults?


Here, let me put it this way:
If they had just called it a ‘Black Cheetor’ instead of trying to pretend it’s a completely different character with a completely different alt mode, this entire discussion wouldn’t be happening.

 

A panther is not an actual big cat species, a panther is a melanistic variation of ANY BIG CAT. Wether or not there are any known cases of a melanistic cheetah is irrelevant considering the definition of a panther allows for the possibility of a hypothetical melanistic cheetah being a panther.

 

Nice to have the first Predacon. Not sure how I’ll display this. Possibly in Bot mode in my miscellaneous all black collection.

Any suggestions on how you will be displaying yours?

 

Takara doesn't need to do anything other than try to be a profitable company. If they invest thousands of dollars on a mold why wouldn't they want to maximize the return on that investment? Not doing so would be bad business. It seems like plenty of people have a fondness for the Tripredacus Agent toy so what's the harm? It's not like Tigatron will never get a toy because of this repaint.

 

Why are people getting so upset? Just don’t buy it if it offends you.

 

I can’t keep up with the MP numbers. People ref MP-xx and I need a reference for anything above 15.

 

That’s REALLY splitting hairs.

I don’t doubt the validity of the claim at all, however in this particular context, it feels like little more than trying to find some sort of justification for them just taking the cheetah and painting in black.

Typically, when people think ‘panther’, they think about a black jaguar. So it’s a pretty safe assumption that when the character was conceptualized, it was supposed to be the standard panther in the form of a black jaguar, not ‘a potentially undiscovered melanistic cheetah’.

 

I'm LOL'ing that a character who exists as a black repaint of Cheetor is getting flack that his MP toy is a black repaint of Cheetor.  

Hope that in a year we have the same conversation over Grimlock being a repaint of Dinobot.  

 

That’s nice, but that’s not what a panther is, a panther Is most commonly a jaguar or a leopard, but that is not all a panther can be. No splitting hairs about it, just stating facts and not opinions, unlike others in this thread

 

Come on dude. You know exactly what people think about when a Panther is mentioned. It’s the same one we see in any sort of media portrayal.

 

Assuming you’re still using your Wikipedia definition from earlier, which was for a Black Panther and not just a Panther, Wikipedia doesn’t include Cheetahs as a “Big Cat.”

Big cat - Wikipedia

Which makes sense, as every other definition specifically mentions these species by name.

 

Incorrect.

Panther is a shortening of the genus Panthera. Four species of big cat are included in this genus, not all big cats. However, "Black panther" (similar to what you state) is the melanistic version of any member of the Panthera genus, rather than being a separate species in any way.

Cheetahs are not one of the four species of the genus Panthera. It is part of another genus.

Oniconvoy is also incorrect. Both melanistic and albino specimens of Cheetahs have been seen in the wild.

Some reading will verify the accuracy of what I have just stated.

 

Thank you for the clarification, I didn’t realize cheetahs were not classified as big cats, so I will retract that. However the point still stands that shadow panther has absolutely no media portrayal (sans idw bio) to base any remolding off of, the only thing they have to base it off of is a cheetor repaint, therefore it’s a logical choice. Tigatron on the other hand has a completely different show character model in the show that they can base his masterpiece figure off of

 

Pics, please.