Could the Machinima series be considered a continuation of the G2 comics?

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  1. Prime Noble

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    I was thinking about this today and I think it could.

    Obviously time has passed with Hot Rod at some point becoming a Prime.

    What if Caminus and the like were liberated/converted (allegiance wise) Cybertronian colonies?

    Megatron is still a tank and I definitely see similarities in his portrayal in both series.

    Optimus was still alive at the end of G2 and the Prime Wars trilogy mentions the Liege Maximo.

    I loved the G2 comics and while the Machinima series isn' perfect, I have enjoyed it overall.

    Anyway I'm not saying they do follow on from G2 but rather if they could? I don't see anything in the Machinima series that contradicts anything from G2 but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    I might actually watch the Machinima series now.
     
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    The more I watch them, the more I like them. It's only the voice acting that annoys me and you get used to Starscream and Overlord.

    It's Menasor that ruins it for me. My favourite Combiner made to sound like Armada Carlos, the most annoying human in the franchise closely followed by Leo, the Headmaster and a Professor Princess.
     
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    No.

    Just, no.
     
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    I'm not saying they are just asking if they could be.

    There's nothing contradictory from what I can see.

    Or could you get a micro continuity of War for Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron, Devestation and the Machinima series?

    Would they gel seamlessly? Could you throw the Dreamwave G1 in there too without any conflicting continuity issues?
     
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    No, it isn't.

    Marvel continuity did not have the 13 Primes, for an example. Cybertronian colonies established by Jhiaxus belonged to a third faction... And were hostile to everyone else.
     
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    Not liking the hostility. I realise Machinima isn't perfect or popular with the fandom but there's no call for such rancor.

    I mean, I think there's a lot of silliness in the popular Animated but I don't give people a hard time for liking it.

    Marvel didn't have sparks until Regeneration retroactively included them.

    Not all Decepticons and G2 Cybertronians are necessarily evil. G2 Rook didn't seem the blood thirsty or even evil type. Given that the Cybertronian population was in the millions, logically we can assume there were decent ones.

    Even Jhiaxus tried to control his rages. It's just unfortunate that the dogma of their society dictated expansion and did not view organics as equals. Doesn't mean all Cybertronians agreed with it.

    Alternatively, there's nothing to suggest that before the Great War, there weren't colonies such as Antilla, Caminus or Paradron in the Marvel continuity.

    I'm speaking theoretically here and skirting with fan fiction/theory. I'm just asking if they could tie in together. From what I can see, there's not really anything that says they can't.
     
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    Personally I consider the machinima trilogy to be a continuation of the devastation micro continuity
     
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    Cool. Would you fit any other series in that continuity?
     
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    Not perfectly that I’m aware of, granted it could be beast wars g1 considering it has elements of most previous g1s and the g1 that preceded beast wars was a composit universe of comic and cartoon
     
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    interesting concept :) 
     
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    HELL NO.

    Machinima is its own awful universe, hopefully destroyed in the end.
     
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    I'm not asking if you like it, I'm asking if they could plausibly be linked.

    I'll take Machinima over any Animated episode featuring the terrible human villains or most of G1 Season 2 with its terrible animation and writing giving us shit like Alpha Trion, Orion Pax, Lord Chumley and Kremzeek.

    I tried starting a thread about whether the 2 series could tie in but I'm mostly getting bile. If you can' say anything positive don't say anything at all.
     
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    It’s possible, I suppose, but I’d rather they not connect and I’d rather not think about connections. Everything Combiner Wars and Titans Return need to only exist in their own, awful, unwatchable world.
     
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    For this theory to make sense, the Machinima series also needs to be cohesive with the G1 comics. For example, how would you account for:

    - The existence (and creation) of combiners - particularly Devastator and Menasor - in the Marvel continuity without the Enigma of Combination.
    - The established presence of both Trypticon and Fortress Maximus in Marvel continuity as vastly different characters from their portrayal in the Machinima series...plus that neither of them was a Titan or even Titan size.
    - Fort Max’s death early in the G2 run and the destruction of the Technobots during the Underbase saga (granted, neither of these is that hard to explain)
     
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    They just did some Google search and came up with a story.
     
  17. Prime Noble

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    Some very good points there I had genuinely forgotten but I suppose I started this thread for exactly this kind of feedback.

    As for explanatory theories, I'll take a stab at it...

    Trypticon had obviously died at some point in Machinima continuity and there's nothing to say he couldn't have died off screen in Marvel G1. Reanimating him with Starscream's spark as essentially a zombie could account for the change in character.

    The zombie aspect would be a nice homage to his last G1 UK appearance where he was fighting Flame's zombie hordes.

    Up until Transformers The Movie there had been no mention of the Matrix in any previous episode of the cartoon.

    It even changed in the Marvel comics having originally been described as a life giving program entrusted to the Prime.

    In the UK comic, the combination technology was inspired by a Matrix induced vision.

    That doesn't explain Shockwave's construction of the Constructicons or the presence of Abominus and Computron given that Fortress Maximus' troops had no contact with Earth before leaving Cybertron, even referring to the disappearance of the legendary Optimus Prime.

    What if the Technobots had discovered the Enigma of Combination at an earlier stage? It could have been housed in the Temple of Boltax before the launching of the Underbase.

    The Headmasters original heads were still in storage on Nebulos as we saw in Regeneration. Fortress Maximus may have been rebuilt on a larger scale after his 'death' in G2.

    He still retained the basic trait of the reluctant but dutiful fighter in both series.