I meant cartoon wise. I have nothing againts the toys

 

I think cyberverse would have been better accepted if NuRid didnt leave a sour taste...especially after that "finale" it had (When Energon had a better conclusion than NuRiD)

 

I'm beginning to wonder if any Transformers Content that contains Windblade in it is a automatic signal to skip it - as every time I see more of her I like her less - which is kinda depressing really as design wise I think she look really cool - but darn does she often have the worst personality imaginable - she's like worse than Clara & Bill from Doctor Who combined. I have no idea what makes them make them write her as so agrevating to me though. epsecially when each version of the character is a little bit different - and yet they still all manage to annoy me. I'm as yet undecided if she's more or less annoying than Strongarms' fan girling and burst of anime stykle agression or Just Drift in general.
But she might be significantly more annoying than Nightscream or Hotshot.

It looks like Cyberverse is going to be more (attrocious) Transformers Media - It's strange isn't it they open a Media devision and all their media takes and immediate nose dive in quality. (and they cancel the original Rescue Bots and replace it with one made on the cheap that is half it's lenth per episode) I feel like Real Ghostbusters here when the show deterioated year after year.

Transformers 2018 looks like it's going to be like Slimer and the Real Ghostbuster in term of quality - I'm not unsympathetic to them no wanting to spend a small fortune on a TV show like they did with Transformers Prime - but marketing the brand only to 6 year olds is a bit weird.
Or to whoever the demographic of Bayt Movies is - those who are wearing Movi shirts "Ironically" (one supposes).

Isn't there some sort of point between kids barely out of Pre-school and Bay Formers now ?
Machinima doesn't really count as it's so bad it's something I refuse to acknowledge exists.

At this point I can only hope that if it's terrible the new Cyberverse shorts are somewhere in terms of terrible that is closer RID level terrible and far away from Machinima terrible. If I hear it's got Youtubers in it I'm not even going to bother watching a single episode though.

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P.s. I don't much like Animated either - I Tried so hard to like it I've gone back 3 times to try to get into it and I just can't it's the wooden & stilted animation, the creepy zombie background Humans. the childish actions of the autobots, the way they treat Transformers as "things" as mere robots and not aliens who happen to look like robots.
But most of all the voice work is hideous. So Hideious I can in all honestly say I'm shocked and mortified by how little effort the likes of Megatron has to their performance - what did they record one take for every line and just use it - he sounds like he's asleep - Even Optimus's trying to be peppy can't save it when his actions are often so immoral as to be horrifying or so angsty they make you cringe Magnus and Sentinel are 100% unlikeable. I really really really really don't like that show at all - it's like the antithis of everything I like about Transformers the characters are well "In-Human" sums it up best.

Now i've not seen every single episode (I just couldn't it made me angry watching it) so I can't rule out that someone like Rodimus or Lockdown might be "wonderful" - as I just couldn't wade through the sh** to get to the later episodes.

But bear in mind this is comming from some one who thinks Teen Titans were personally crafted by the hand of demons. So anything of that style was already going to be on the back foot.

I don't mind in the least that others like it -but it just happens to be a show that almost everything about it I personally object too in terms of the Transformers Brand and unfortunately it's all in the same show - I might have been able to put up with bad acting, bad animation and terrible interpretation of the species and characters if the show just had one or two of those but having all of that and worse made it quite painful for me... which it might not be for others - the things I loath may be what other see as "fresh" about it.

I could just about Stomach Armada as it wasn't quite as terrible - even though it was a tad boring, and Energon sort of fell of a cliff in story terms half way trough - Cybertron I liked all the way through - Prime was boring as hell but I enjoyed the Characters & visuals so I hand waved the total lack of a story aside. So I can deal with some level of suck in a Transformers cartoon - but I am not really going to give one my time if it has "all the suck". or if it does what animated did and treats them like "Things" (as that is a bet peeve of mine I like my Transformers in the Goldielocks zone between to robot and to over the top and wacky or two human/organic)

For me Animated is like Windblade - I can't stand her so I stopped watching or consuming anything she's in. As with Animated I have to imagine my own Head cannon that isn't the TV show to enjoy the toys. (which I really do like a lot) but I have to avoid the cartoon and try to forget it to get that enjoyment out of it as a brand segment. I may have to do the same with Cyberverse too if it's not to my taste or simply bad.

But it's also a reason why I'm not enjoying Takara's direction with their Masterpiece line either - as to me I want to imagine that they look like the real world vehicles Transformed and every time they move closer to an animation look they stop being a represention of an imaginary reality and become a piece of merchandise related to a cartoon i've not watched once since it came out on DVD many years ago.

 

11 minute runtime: check
Super simple designs that will most likely be animated with Flash : check
Bumblebee as the lead : check

This show looks like it's gonna be another Teen Titans Go
I hope Im wrong, I really do. I'll give the show a shot out of my love for the brand overall.

 

You should check out Motercity. It's a cartoon made in flash but you wouldn't know it by seeing it in action.

 

11 Minute Cartoon are what I associate with Humour shows.
Though I guess sometimes Humour shows can be long like a show like Dinotrux (which is kinda action-humour) that one is fine for a broader audience little kids can watch it 0h heck I watch it sometimes ; I think it's kinda charming like a pixar / Dreamworks animated Movie (only shorter) - that show is longer but not especially deep but it's long enough to give you character development (of sorts) that you don't get as much of in some 11 minute shows.

So 11 minutes is what I see as segments in light hearted shows - animaniacs type stuff for example (sometimes they shove them into 2 segments in a 30 minute window) other times they use 1 segment to fill a gap after a longer show or Movie.

A 22 Minute format is more for action adventure shows like Digimon or Max Steel and those sort of shows seem so much more suited to the Transformers brand as it allows the characters to be developed more.

So from the length alone I'm taking away from this that bother Cyberverse and Rescue Bots Academy will not be story focused or have much continuity.

Though it does seem like Cyberverse has a framing device for the series in Bee's recovered memories (but that might just be in the 1st episode or so).

Now there "Might" be some hope here if they are thinking they might sell these on home formats in a boxed set form at some point or that someone might watch them in order on Netflix - as if that is the case then they might put some over-arching continuity into both of them... such as ending Rescue Bots Academy with a graduation for example.

I'm not especially hopeful of the show being up to much though It does seem like it might be well "Silly" like Neo-RID mostly was. ( That show didn't really hold my interest much either) or it might even be one of those moral lesson type shows like that used to make one eye roll a bit when watching Thundercats or MOTU.

I don't want to be cynical about it if I can help it - if for example they were hiring the same writers who worked on Rescue Bots then i'd be a lot more optimistic.

The sad thing is that the framing device of Bee's memories has HUGE potential to show us things we have never seen before in cartoon form on Cybertron.

One thing is a little odd though - why isn't Windblade in the Busy Book toys or in the book for that matter either ?

As for the actual designs - they look pretty cool (the smaller toys are rubbish) but the actual designs of the characters are very good (I feel) so much so that if Hasbro fail to make a decent toy of Megatron or Soundwave or heck even Bee - I'd really welcome a 3rd party doing one ; I like Bee's (South American Transformers) like design and his compact tuned car alt mode.

I just hope they make some better toys of the characters than some heavily simplified onestep like 'scouts' out of them.

 

In my opinion, a Samurai Jack styled Transformers cartoon would have been great. First, it would appeal to multiple age groups. There would be lots of action and fighting with some minimal storytelling to tie in all the episodes. It would be easy for new viewers to jump right in the middle of a season instead of starting from episode 1 in order to get caught up with the series.

 

kinda unrelated but not really. i've always thought that the best way to make a transformers show or movie in the uncreative media outlet we have today would be to just create a generic ww2/modern, war/espionage/political thriller script. then change all the nouns to Transformers/scifi themed nouns. John and Stacy become Ironhide and Chromia, AK-47 becomes ion-rifle, Afghanistan flashbacks become Cybertron flashbacks, etcetera.

Like, imagine Saving Private Ryan, switch out Ryan for Prowl and the rest of the cast to the Wreckers and youve got nearly a version of Sins of the Wreckers.

 

Any word on voice actors?

 

I have tried that series. Gave it 3 episodes and it just didn't hook me. Which surprised me because I loved the Creator's previous work on Megas XLR

 

It wasn't exactly moronic, but it was a bit jerky.
I loath Animated because of it's fanservice, it's lack of leftfield characters and just how full it is of itself, but I don't have to talk it down every chance I get.
I hope Cyberverse isn't like that.
It would be nice to finally see characters like Mindwipe, Cyclonus, the Technobots or Brainstorm in a cartoon again, but I really doubt it.

 

Flash gets a bad rep because its easy to abuse for cheap animation, but like most things, it a tool that's only as good as the one who uses it.

 

You know what, I'm up for this. A series based around flashbacks sounds like an awesome way to see multiple Transformer characters and lore without having them bog down the plot. Sort of like Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

One ep could involve Jazz on some sort of espionage mission. Next ep could be a science adventure with Perceptor or Brainstorm. Just a whole series of vignettes about Transformers.

 

Voltron is on Netflix and not everyone has that, Ben 10 is currently more comedy focused, Korra was nowhere near as popular as Nick wanted and had to screw around with the scheduling and the viewing dropped off just like Tron Uprising, Dragon Ball Super isn't on TV unless you're pulling all-nighters, AA has a multi-million dollar movie franchise behind it (as does SW:Rebels) and Fate/Stay is definitely NOT for children.

 

NuRID didn't leave a bad taste. That's kind of a moronic thing to say  
NuRID did a couple of very interesting things in the first season and gave us new and interesting characters. The problem is that later on it tried to to do the fanservice thing that Animated and Prime did with the Starscream arc etc and that brought the show down a lot.
Had they kept the course of the first season and ignored the whining NuRID would have been the first entertaining TF cartoon in a long while.

 

Personally,I'm not hyped.The fact that they keep reviving Windblade is disturbing.I'm sick of that femme MarySueBlade popularity sucker.Bumblebee seems good,but darn Optimus Prime's face.I hate that Animated face.He needs a faceplate.And his face is too wide.Anyway,Bumblebee seems good,but based on RID201x,him and Windblade were friends,though not best ones.Decepticons getting in the way is always what a Transformers show needs.These flashbacks will be cool.Alao,Windblade kinda looks ugly.Sucky designs here.Look,I don't know if these new Evergreen toys are related,but I would love a younger kid appropriate Beast Wars in the flashbacks.I'll see...

 

Only the first few, Marvel tends to have short episodes for their shows before the main series airs, the main Spidey series is 22 minutes long

 

I think the thing to remember is that Steven Universe typically has 11 minute episodes and they can get a great message across very effectively within that time.

I’m rooting for this show. I think it has promise, we just need to wait awhile until we can see it

 

I've just about given up all hope that this franchise will ever reach the same level of creativity and quality that gave us Beast Wars and Beast Machines.