Gotcha thanks !

 

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell. Because Tank Megatron is immensely better than gun Megatron, because mass-shifting is a stupid legacy of the fact that G1 was a conglomeration of several different toy lines, including toys intended to be 1:1 scale. If no mass-shifting designs are ever created ever again in the Transformers line, it would be the better for it.

Besides, if you want a full sized G1 shockwave, just order a masterpiece from Japan. Problem solved. I'd rather have a leader sized figure of Don Figueroa's War Within Shockwave, myself.

 

Again, the words don't even make grammatical sense together in English. If they actually get released in the USA and on the packaging it says "Transformers Authentics" then I'll accept it. But all we have is a non-English manual with some English writing on it. We've seen early scans/art work with errors on it before, I'm guessing this is a mock up from an asia-based designer or the instructions for the version of the toy that will be released in China.

 

Please don't take this the wrong way, because I think there may be a language barrier here. But this is not true. The word "distributed" means "this item has been shipped to stores and is available for purchase", which is not true because these toys have not been sighted in stores. Even looking back at the news post, it appears you mean "solicited" which would mean Hasbro has told toy sellers they are coming and are available for order. Except that hasbro has not done that (in the US) because I have a wholesale account with the major Hasbro distribution company in the USA (Entertainment earth) and I specifically told my salesperson I wanted these and she has told me Hasbro hasn't listed them yet.

Now, it appears you have an asian solicitation that you pulled the info from, but you didn't actually post it in the news story. So while it may be listed for asian distros to buy with that name, it doesn't mean its the US name, **AND** it doesn't mean its the name of the line. That combined with the clearly asian instruction sheet means that until we see US packaging it doesn't mean anything.

Also:

None of that is true. Hasbro has never used "alpha" and "bravo" as wave enumerators. They did name their size classes that once for GI Joe (on the retail packaging) but that is the same thing as "deluxe" "voyager" "leader" for TFs. They name the waves with numbers: Wave 1 Revision 1, Wave 2, Wave 2 revision 1, etc.

I would hazard a guess that the "alpha" is the larger figures that hit intl markets last year and are now showing up at Walgreens in the USA, and these new smaller legends are the second try at the concept, making them a "bravo" as bravo is the military term for second. This code name clearly was accidentally listed in whatever solicit you pulled your news story from.

For clarification, I will email my EE contact again today to see if there is a new solicit and/or an expected date for these to be released. Then we'll know.

 

I sent an email to my sales rep after my last post asking when they'd be available for order. EE did get the last 2 batches of TF "budget" figures and the GI Joe ones, so they should have no trouble getting these. BBTS had them too.

"Value channel" is the industry term for "not normal retail" so here in the USA, drug stores, Dollar General, and the like.

 

That's excellent to know, thanks! Nonetheless?   I think Hasbro's resources are limited. You got me on the manufacturing - you didn't address the shipping!   Think about it: is Hasbro ordering more shipping containers or simply "finding space" in their current distribution model?

Manufacturing is only half of the equation, and given how missing toys in the USA end up in mass in other parts? I'd say it's NOT the problem. The problem is shipping/distribution - and more TF lines will NOT help that.  

Gun Megatron is better. I could open a poll and embarrass you, but I won't!  

Mass shifting doesn't bother me so much because it would be IMPOSSIBLE for certain alt modes to exist without it. Do I need to whip out that Bruticus scaled combiner image?   How does Omega Supreme exist without mass shifting? How often do you see robots like Metroplex? Basically, if you want to eliminate the shifts? We end up with TFs on massively different scales that can't really interact (imo) - at least not in a meaningful way (that doesn't require special Windblade powers or something).  

The Shockwave comment applied to Hasbro releases of transforming robot guns. If we were talking about JAPANESE toys, you could tell me all about Takara's MP. But I was trying to express disappointment where a major toy company sells HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (if not millions) of toy guns in one section, but then refuses to release gun versions of Transformers in another section of the store. So rest assured, whatever I think of tank Megatron, Hasbro has decided it's the best alt mode because the lawyers said it was so!  

 

But people naturally focus on the bad more than the good. Think about how often someone has criticized you... and then compare it to how often they've complimented you.

And for that matter, challenge yourself: do you pay enough compliments to others? My guess is no. Because it's far easier to complain than it is to appreciate.

That said, don't take the negativity so badly. Sometimes, we're having a bad day and we're just venting about an unrelated topic. Everyone's been there. Isn't it more important to support EACH OTHER more than some plastic toy?  

 

Hey guys, I just saw these figures at my local Toys R Us.

 

See also the confusingly titled Re-release of TF Legends in new packaging...

 

More popular doesn't mean better. Heck, people think that "cartoon accuracy" is a thing, even though it's an oxymoron! People also use the word "scale" incorrectly all over the boards. "This figure scales well with that one" (are they climbing something?) "deluxe scale" (deluxe is a size class) "masterpiece scale" (masterpiece is a subline that comprised many different scale figures) -- Again, popular is NOT correct.

Tank Megatron is a better alt-mode because mass shifting is stupid. THat's not an argument based on popularity, but based on logic. You may not agree, and it may not be a popular opinion, but I have yet to see a logical argument for why an alien killing machine would be better off turning into a pistol than a tank. It's just dumb. And I'm old enough to have lived through G1. Best characterizations of the characters, but not the best choices of alt-modes.

Then those alt-modes should not exist. Omega Supreme and Metroplex should be RIDICULOUSLY HUGE. Are they not supposed to be battle stations and cities? Metroplex barely qualifies as a large building. Part of the franchise should be to explore how they interact with such differently sized characters. That would be interesting. Instead we get lazy writing of (oh, just make an F-22 and a VW bug about the same size" -- LAZY and DUMB. Almost as dumb as Beast Wars.

Tank is the best alt-mode because it makes for a more interesting character. A Megatron who needs another bot around to hold him and shoot him in gun form is dumb. Mass shifting is inherently a lazy shortcut and screams "cheap writing". The only arguments for gun megatron boil down to "G1 can never be questioned" or "guns are cool" -- both arguments are dumb.

 

Either Legends(yay) or Legion(yay yay).

 

Oh, I saw these at Family Dollar for $5.75. I think it was these.

 

Thanks, I’ve been wondering the same thing. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.  

 

$6 in the Philippines roughly, not bad given these are larger than I thought they'd be