That pic of the jets next to the G1 silverbolt goodness gives me a sentimental thrill no other aerialbot set has done yet.

However, show the damn bot modes already FFS. It makes me feel like they are holding them back because they suck.

 

How does limiting articulation make it have "improved play-ability?" That makes no fucking sense just to give a few a more (annoying and limited) G1 look. I don't fucking want that, I want this thing to have modern articulation, unlike G1 figures.

If you want G1 and this they made it easy for you to swap the feet parts around for that look. That is the best solution for every one.

 

Folks thinking about flipping the feet around for that G1 feel need to look closer at CW Superion's thighs. It's not the jet kibble behind the knee that hinders the bend; that can be left untabbed for clearance. It's the lack of clearance at the combiner port above the knee. It would need to be rounded off for a flipped around leg bot to be able to bend, but since its squared off at that point (think Silverbolt's wrists basically), it can't move at all. Couple that with the limb bots head on the combiner port being in the way, and Silverbolt's hand being in the way as well, and its clear that G1 look stuff won't work unless they overhauled the crap out of this guy.
Hopefully G1 folks do skip though, more for the rest of us! Lol... If this guy is built with the same quality and durability as JJ01 Prime, its going to be good times, especially since voyager jet limbs can easily be painted into some nice voyager seekers.

 

I like what I've seen but bot modes would be nice to see.

 

 

If it's designed properly, reversing the direction of the jets wouldn't hinder articulation at all. My OS KO uranos is just fine at the knee joint, and the jets are facing proper. With this bot, the combiner joint is the knee, so that's why the articulation would be limited. It's not a problem necessarily, it was a design choice.

 

Yes, really looking forward to these reveals. Especially Silverbolt.

 

Why not just stick with your KO Uranos then instead of hoping for this thing to be designed differently than it likely is? If Uranos already checks your G1 backward leg boxes, then maybe leave this one to folks who might like the CW Superion design the way it is. You say "designed properly", but it comes off sounding more like "designed to my personal preference". Kinda self-centered view on things there.

 

Not to mention we already know how this is designed so "hoping" it's "designed properly" (whatever that bullshit means) is pointless.This is a updated CW Superion. There is no radical redesign going on here (which is what moving the CW joints into Silverbolt would be) so yes. Turning the jets around would eliminate any knee articulation rather then "improve playability" or whatever that bullshit is suppose to mean, too.

There's an easy fix for G1ers, open the feet and flip the damn connector. It's so much better then re-enginnering five figures to meet the "needs" of a tiny few who probably wouldn't buy this anyways since it's alreeady not "G1 enough."

 

Of course it's a design choice, and of course it's not going to change. There is no false hope on my part. You're misinterpreting my post.

Regardless, he looks pretty cool except for the jets facing the wrong way (read the opposite way that I would like them to face due to every appearance of superion I've seen, except CW). That's the only thing I dislike about the figure, but I'm glad you like it. I'd hazard a guess, though that the number of folks that want them flippped outweighs the ones that don't.

Also, of course I'm not 100% on my uranos KO. He looks good, but he doesn't look great, despite the work I've done on him. Again, you're misinterpreting. I'm calling out a specific part of that toy...the knee joint.

 

Taking into account the issues I pointed out in a previous post, "knee joint" oversimplifies the design changes required to get the CW design to do what you want it to do. It would take an overhaul of both the connections on the torso thighs AND the design of all the limb bots (assuming maintaining scramble city functionality is preferred). While, yes, more configuration options are always cool, this likely isn't the Superion you're looking for.

 

My only call out was that making the jets face one way or the other does not inherently make a superion toy less articulated. It would make "this" toy less articulated because it wasn't designed for rear facing jets. If a toy was designed with rear facing jets in mind, articulation wouldn't be a factor. I'm not trying to suggest that choosing to face the jets forward was improper. It was a design decision.

You were misinterpreting my "properly". hopefully above clarifies my intent.

With that said. You are right that it is probably not the toy for me, but that's not a big deal. Depending on price, I may still buy it and see what I can do to modify it.

 

No worries man, sorry if stuff was coming across harshly; I for one am super stoked on this toy as it is, but I can understand how it could be a bummer as a near miss for others. Modding it to be G1 friendly (assuming it is basically the same as CW Supes) actually isn't complicated... CW Superion could actually pull off the flipped leg look by just adding these knee extensions from Shapeways:
Aerial Team Combiner Knee Extension Mk. II by SteamShield on Shapeways
With those on, and the heads from the limb bots removed, AND the jet kibble untabbed on the lower leg bots, these extensions give the clearance needed to bend the knees with the legs flipped around. Get oversized versions of these knee pieces, pull the heads of the leg bots off, find a way to flip the feet, and you're golden.

 

So if i understand correctly these are oversized remolds of the CW Aerialbots but with new more premium tooling like better fists/feet and more accurate alt modes?

 

No Oversizing happened. More G1 accurate altmodes, retooling, more paint (from the looks of it), and better hands and feet.

 

They're oversized. And have we actually seen the hands?

 

In the fist picture of the OP you can see Fireflight's hands transform differently to the standard CW version. Slingshot's too. You can also see new feet on Fireflight.

This actually interests me more as a non oversized piece. The individual figures aren't intricate enough to warrant oversizing.

 

It's 18" tall. CW was about 12"

 

I'm really stoked for this guy, especially after seeing Spence's in-hand photos!

Looking at the above couple of comments, hasn't it been confirmed 100% that this is oversized, what with Spence's photos showing how the oversized Wei Jiang combiner wars kos are compatible as limbs? I think Scale face showed off Spence's pics somewhere in this thread.