MMC R-33 Collisus (IDW Thunderclash)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Ra88, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. Fenrys

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    im fairly certain the machine wars optimus had the same head as thunderclash, it was only the artwork that was different
     
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    True. It was an alteration of the Laser Optimus Prime artwork, just with some MW Op toy details, like the chest
     
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  3. LazyAza

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    Yeah I know an Optimus head would just be there to make him look more like Optimus. That always bugged me that they literally just recolored Thunder back in the day and said he was Optimus lol.
     
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    yea, i always thought it was a bit weird
     
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    Then again, it's not like Machine Wars was a full-budget release line.
     
  6. Dark Magnus

    Dark Magnus Your opinion is wrong!

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    Because using the issue with some of the worst art in the series and a one-off cover picture vs. multiple appearances with correctly colored shoulders are perfectly valid justifications for coloring the character incorrectly.
     
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  7. LazyAza

    LazyAza MMC color go brrrr

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    That's not precisely why I want them to stay white. I want them to stay white because with our design in particular, how it is structured, how it is engineered and how it looks as a physical plastic thing, the teal imbalances it's deco and ruins its alt mode I feel. I do not like how the teal shoulders will look in either mode. White looks so sooo much better.

    But because people keep on complaining about this I decided to put it to a vote if anyone is interested: MMC THUNDERCLASH SHOULDER COLOR VOTE
     
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  8. ILoveLuci4

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    Tricked me!

    When I first saw this, I was excited.

    Alas, it's only IDW's Thunderclash.

    Somebody, some day will make characters from G1.5 (1991-1992). Maybe.
     
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    Hey @LazyAza I agree that the shoulders should be white. Is there any thought to making his colors a little brighter to reference his G1 toy?
     
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    I kind of see LazyAsa's point, but if you're going through the trouble of making an extensive retool of an already expensive figure, and base it on the character's comic book appearance, then it should actually be based on the character's comic book appearance.
     
  11. LazyAza

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    I contemplated going full g1 with him at one stage but I knew that given the mold was so very idw that would have been a silly path to go down and inevitably lead to a lot of complaints from idw fans, far more so than the shoulder debate has caused so I decided to set that idea aside and focus on adapting byrins action master colors to be more season 2 faithful. The upside of doing that was making him look more like the g1 toy as well anyway and I was thinking of at least giving him the neon pink windows at one point but ah decided against it. And now we're gonna dramatically change how the cockpit looks anyway so would have been a pointless addition in retrospect.

    The legs in particular are a much darker shade of red than the blues and teals are because they're the one color I felt brightening would have been too much since the revised design already had so much bright color, especially the gold and the whites it desperately needed a good chunk of its palette to be darker and a little more muted and I think the legs really counter balance the rest of his body nicely still so I wouldn't change those.

    Kind of the problem with Thunderclash, I feel like literally every version of his design has its downsides and I never wanted to exclusively have it look like one above all others. But people have insisted we do that so we're probably gonna stick to doing that now.
     
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    Right. That's what I was saying. He should at least have the option of a toy accurate (Thunderclash repaint) head.

    It bugged me too back in the day, but as time passes, the the Thunderclash head on MW Prime helps define what makes him so different from other Primes.

    The white definitely looks better for the same reason Victorion needed more white or silver.. To break up all the teal.

    Either way won't stop me from getting him though.
     
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    I'll buy it however it ends up looking, he's definitely close enough to the IDW character for me and is a pretty great retool overall. I know IDW accuracy isn't the only goal of the Reformatted line, but its what I look for personally.

    The colours do clash a little more than in the comics, maybe because the red looks quite brown. Is this just the lighting in the photography? I also don't remember him having bright purple areas, but it does look pretty cool.
     
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    Oh, man. So just last week I picked up Battle Core Optimus, Thunderclash reprolabels, and the Thunderclash renderform head.

    Definitely will be getting this. I'll save that Battle Core Optimus for the SND Primo Nova Prime kit now.

    Thunderclash looks great except for those duck feet. Definitely prefer the blue on them.
     
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    I know this figure will not have any impact on my beautiful Renderform/Reprolabels Thunderclash. He lives on my dedicated CW shelf...
     
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    Figure has zero purple on it. The legs are dark red not brown.
     
  17. LazyAza

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    UPDATE

    We absolutely cannot do two sets of shoulders as they are held on with pins. Their is no "snap on snap off" possibility there nor any ease of disassembly otherwise. So the shoulders have to be one or the other.

    Boss is confident we should definitely make them teal, I've already recommended we leave them molded white and paint a lot of teal on with the blue at the front option or mold them teal and paint the side detail white option. Either way they'll have a lot of teal in bot mode. Poll doesn't end for a good number of hours still but it's pretty conclusive more people want teal for the sake of the robot mode if nothing else. And that's fine we've got a better solution to make it work for the sake of our design in particular now so it'll look good with the finished product I'm sure.

    However white shoulder fans their is some good news. I've been provided with a really nice digi-upped fucking gorgeous machine wars deco version of him and it will absolutely have white shoulders if we do it among other bad ass little ways of interpreting and applying the MW design to him. So we can always come back to white shoulders for that one if it happens down the line. For now though I definitely think majority s2 idw is the way to go for the initial release.

    I've already asked to have the votes thread deleted since it's pretty redundant already, if you wanna discuss the figure further you guys can do so here in the main one. Again for those who missed it, feet, head and cockpit are all also going to be tweaked for the final.
     
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    Cool. With teal shoulder I'm now in on this one, when it eventually arrives.
     
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    I was leaning towards white, but neither approach was a deal-breaker for me. I'm intrigued by the addition of blue paint on the front... I think that'll look good.

    I really appreciate how responsive MMC always is to customer interests in their product, and I look forward to seeing the finished product!
     
  20. FanboyX

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    this looks like a very clean update of the character, shoulders really dont bother me. Not sure about alt mode or whether IDW TC has a trailer, but i'd love to see one as well as the obvious MWOP repaint.