One of the reason why DOTM is the best of the franchise

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  1. LegionofMordor

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    Starscream pretends to be loyal but he plots under the surface and wait for the moment to back-stapp him. Just look at the video: he's clearly mocking Megatron when he said that he pains him to see him so weak. Kruger nailed this scene. This is like straight out of G1
     
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    Hence, the reasons for my ratings...

    DOTM > ROTF, AOE and TLK > TF1
     
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    It's a minor gripe, but what bothers me about that scene is it's really obvious the animal footage is just stock; there's never a frame where Megatron is composited in to sell the idea that he's threatening the elephants and zebras and they are fleeing from him. Also I can't say for certain but it looks like the animal footage was shot with a different filter?
     
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    and after that the cons are just dying like that scene didn't even matter...

    great scene but it has no real presentation regarding these character later on in the movie.
     
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    It was originally intended that Megatron's path was being blocked by the elephants. He then stops, transforms and blows one of them to pieces and it scares the rest off. The animal rights people went nuts over it and it was changed. That is why it shows him transform and draw his weapon, also why he says "All hail Megatron." for no real reason. He says it after killing the alpha elephant blocking his way.
     
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    I liked the Africa scene well enough, from Bay's gorgeous shots to Megs' imposing re-introduction and Starscream sniveling.

    But I'd hardly call it a scene that made the film, let alone one that qualified DOTM as the best of the series.
     
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    If they had a flashback that showed Starscream was one of the f-22's that fired on Megatron during the mission city battle, then the remark about his treachery in the last knight would've made more sense.

    These films never seem like those involved thought long-term in regards to continuity. I think that's why most of these films are very messy and not more streamlined and connected like the Marvel Cinematic Universe of films.
     
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    First half of DOTM was good, second half was bad, personally to me, worst in the series.
     
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    Little nuggets like that were pretty common in DOTM. With somewhat meaningful robot to robot interaction. Everything with optimus & sentinel/Megatron & sentinel/Soundwave & Dylan was cool, imo.
     
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again, Soundwave's reveal is unbelievably badass,but that's just a personal reason that I think this movie is the best of the five.
    My list of favorites goes as follows: DotM>TLK>TF>RotF
    Until recently, AoE sat at dead last, but I'm all of a sudden much more fond of it. I'm still unsure whether I like it less than the first or more than TLK, based off of my list. As for DotM, I liked the villains a lot, I liked all of the action scenes pretty much equally (Chernobyl for the absolutely goddamn legendary OP warcry), and to me, it felt a lot like an episode of G1 (not including the part where the plot was taken directly from a few episodes), and I'm no kiss-up to G1, but that somehow felt/feels...right to me. People went into the theater with smiles, reacted enthusiastically, and gave a hardy clap at the end, which after RotF, is a sign enough for me that some people (besides the people in this thread) enjoyed it.
     
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    I love how that's removed, and then next scene Laserbeak kills a bird LOL, way to make a statement, animal rights people
     
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    I liked it, apart from having the best villain and a much better paced final battle, because it was an ending. I don't mean that to be dismissive either, Dark of the Moon feels like the story has concluded and for the most part its an incredibly satisfying conclusion. Then they made AoE and buggered it up. And if what I'm reading about the Last Knight is accurate, they're really pulling shit out of thin air at that point.
     
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    DotM is easily the best of the 5
     
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    I admittedly really do like that scene, but mostly because it illustrates just how badly the Decepticons have fallen since the battle in Egypt. I always interpreted the "all hail Megatron" line as Megs being pretty deep in denial about his current state of affairs-- stuck out in the middle of the desert, his army consisting only of a bunch of sparklings, Igor, Starscream (who's just waiting for Megatron to keel over dead), Soundwave and Laserbeak.

    That being said, I wouldn't say that this was scene that defined the film. I think Sentinel's abrupt betrayal is more iconic.