If TF5 made a half-billion globally it'd only be the 7th movie this year and finish somewhere between Kong: Skull Island and Boss Baby.

50 Shades Darker would round out the top 10. And we've still got two more Marvel movies and Justice League this year.

 

I don't live under a rock, and I visit the boards daily. Yeah criticism is part of the fandom, but the constant complaining around here gets old. I just don't get it is all. It is what it is I suppose.

 

BREAKING NEWS: Michael Bay leaving after TLK
Michael Bay Stepping Away after The Last Knight

 

I smell a billion dollars plus..easily.

 

Yes... and as someone link in that exact same thread, this.

 

Except this time paramount put it in the trailer for the movie!!! The "final chapter" doesn't refer to the story of the transformers, it refers to Michael Bay's involvement.

 

Exactly .

 

Your opinion

 

You must have mega enormous nostrils

 

Thanks! That looks like an interesting read  

 

No offense, but I swear the American public are extremely difficult to please while as those in oveaseas are easily impressed.

 

I wonder if it has to do with the fact that American imports are limited in China. While we get a blockbuster every other week and don't bat an eye, only a handful make it to China each year, and each of those is planned for well in advance with a dedicated marketing strategy and coordination with Chinese studios and requirements. It's not as simple as just sending a copy of the film over and getting a bunch of easy play.

 

Easily? What movies get to a billion easily?

An estimated $60 million 5 day opening weekend doesn't get you to a billion dollars. Next weekend could easily only be 20-30 million. From there the drop-off will be severe. It could very well not crack 200 million domestically.

AoE made 320 million in China. Even if this one matches it, it will have a long way to go to hit a billion.
It could, but not easily.

 

And a lot of you guys love to remain clueless on how much of those box office returns Paramount is able to keep!

I get that you enjoy Bayformers but when your defense for it is as bad as the jokes, plot and human characters, my point stands.

The declining domestic box office is a big problem for Bayformers franchise and its future whether you wish to acknowledge it or not.

 

People need to focus more on how this pizza will be divided than how big it'll be. The US slice isn't that big so neither will Paramount's ability to recoup in making it.

 

Domestic as a Bonus?

Its like Paramount saying: "Since you our fellow countrymen ditchin' our TF film a lot, We're going to make films for the sake of international viewers, they're open-minded than you."

lolz

 

Losing the Domestic box office completely is something no director wants to do regardless how good a film does overseas. This was why they were trying to promote "Gurl Power" during that Nickelodeon Award Show that made the TF trailer literally sound like an Alway's Tampon commercial to win over more of a female demographic in the states.

 

Yeah well I was pretty accepting of changes to the brand when GEEWUNNERs were bashing BW and Animated (I even stood up for the other crap), and all these years I've just brushed off the Bay movies, but like I said, I'm concerned that this might have long-term negative effects, if it hasn't already. Aaron Archer's stated reasons for leaving implied this was already starting.

Like this.
I guess that's not the worst though. What I'm worried about is if they decide the movies are more profitable and the non-movie stuff is less profitable, so they invest accordingly and we just get less and less good things until it's nothing but preschool stuff (or nothing at all) and movie stuff, with, hopefully still Takara doing stuff like Masterpiece, if it's independent of Hasbro.

 

The paradigm that Movie stuff makes money that Hasbro uses to finance less profitable lines such as Generations is patently false. No business is run like this. Generations would not exist if it weren't profitable enough on its own. Money generated by Movie stuff results in more Movie stuff being made because that's Economics 101 - supply and demand.

Now, there is one direct way how Bayverse impacts the rest of the franchise - it raises brand awareness in general and creates new fans who are then likely to explore different aspects of the franchise. But even that is losing momentum and bad press and word of mouth may be hurting the brand more than helping it.

 

If the Bayverse ever ends or gets rebooted, Hasbro will cancel Generations and send out a strike force to destroy every Transformer that's not a One-Step. A guy from 4chan told me.