Justice League - Movie Discussion

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by transfan681, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. Tekkaman Blade

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    Which is funny when you remember they rejected his Wonder Woman pitch years ago.
     
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    Hehe
     
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    Was incredibly saddened at this news. Loved Zack Snyder's work thus far, and he always struck me as a stand up guy. Finding out that this tragedy befell him and his family made me choke up something fierce.

    All my love and prayers to him and his family.
     
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    The same could be said of people's reactions to Kain's post.

    His post wasn't malicious; he heard something and wanted to throw it up here even though he was still in the middle of something else. Stop trying to act like you're some kind of hero for chastising him even after he already admitted he made a mistake and feels bad about it. FFS
     
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    That's very sad, hearing about a parent losing their child is really upsetting to me. My condolences to him and his family.
     
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    Well shit. I think most of us wanted to see Snyder go but I'd hope nobody wanted to see it happen this way. Wait, Josh Whedon is taking over? And with enough time to make a decent amount of changes? How convenient for a company that's clearly desperate for a change in direction for these films.

    Also, why isn't there a tinfoil hat emoticon?
     
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    @ABH1979 This needs to happen.
     
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    I don't understand the hate for the guy. Sure BvS sucked- but you can tell it's more because of WB's meddlings than Snyders competence.
    He's a good director that's done good work.

    I am real sad for what has happened.
     
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    It wasn't his ability in directing, it was his misjudged vision of the characters and the world.

    But yeah, it doesn't matter compared to real life, and as much as I've complained about BvS, I feel horrible for him and would not wish what happened to him on anyone.
     
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    Yeah, from what I've seen of his stuff (sin city, 300), I generally like it. I even liked Man of Steel well enough despite the hate that movie got. Still haven't seen BvS, so I can't say there. But yeah, there are plenty worse directors out there making far worse movies. It's not like Snyder is doing Uwe Boll or Paul WS Anderson quality stuff.

    My only gripe is that everything prior to Wonder Woman was trying to be grim & gritty & dark & grounded as much as possible in reality. It was all about the serious business! I'm not sure if it's because the Dark Knight trilogy did so well or if WB was simply trying to set itself apart from the colorful & fun MCU or what, but not every hero needs or should be as grim & dark & serious as Batman. It's ok to inject some color into these movies both literally & figuratively.

    Thankfully it seems someone at WB finally clued in on that. The mere fact that there was humor in both the trailers for WW & JL are proof of that.
     
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    I like Michael Bay, but I think Snyders films generally have better structure.
    His shopping mall of the dead was pretty decent.
    300 was great.
    I consider Watchmen to be a masterpiece.
    Never saw the animated Owls.
    I liked his take on MoS.
    BvS stank, but again I detect an over abundance of WB meddlings.

    I've grown numb to the "Murder Prime / Face removing Prime" infantile nonsense; I have little to no room in my life for "All of Snyder's films suck because that's not my Superman!!!"
    Well, I guess it was MY Superman.
     
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    The thing with Snyder is, much like Michael Bay, I think he's far more suited to being a cinematographer than a director. Both of these guys know how to setup amazing epic shots and have an insane eye for detail & framing, and where Snyder is concerned, his color palettes are practically unrivaled, but I don't think they're necessarily good directors in way of properly executing story structure or getting the best out of their actors. I've believed for a long time that if these guys were more behind the scenes of Transformers and these DC movies setting up the shots but someone else was doing the actual directing, I'd legitimately enjoy them far more... and that they might even be great movies that don't come with an eye roll when mentioned. I'd hire both of them in an instant to do what used to - make music videos and TV commercials - since they're the top of their game in those mediums, but as directors of movies... they still have a long way to come. Though, after I saw Bay's "13 Hours", I think the guy actually DOES have the potential to be a great director... with the right material. I'm sure the same can be said of Snyder, but I just haven't seen it yet from him.
     
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    My deep condolences to Mr Snyder and his family for this terrible event.

    It's too easy to forget that the people who make films - directors, actors, etc - are human beings with their own issues.

    Let him take some time off.
     
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    Wow, this is sad all the way around, no matter your feelings about Snyder.

    I am curious though with the way everything is, and especially with the way the media and paparazzi is that we are only hearing of his daughters suicide now, two months later, after it happened. There isn't much I do about her or the suicide. She was 20 right? How did she do it? Did she suffer from depression? Was Zack working out of town or home when it happened? As a mother, and a working working mother I feel bad for him.

    I love Joss as a director and storyteller, I just hope that he services the movie as it needs and not use it as a revenge against Marvel (as in hey Marvel look at what I can do and you still lost me)

    It is reported that only post production work needs to be completed on the movie which is both good and bad. Joss can't really change much in the movie but the also the post production work is really where Snyder shines.

    Apparent WB offered to delay the movie release date but Snyder declined. Maybe he should have taken them up on the offer. It's not the first time a movie would have been delayed due to Snyders post production work. He delayed Man of Steel once and delayed BvS Dawn of a justice twice! I get that Snyder wanted to give the fans the movie what it wants and on time, but with a different director taking over the part where you really shine is that still giving the fans what it wants on time? Since Joss is hopping on at the last minute and doesn't fully have the same vision for this movie it's going to take him some time as well.

    Billy Crudup who was set to play Barry Allen's father in the movie The Flash has dropped out as well, and The Flash STILL doesn't have a director nor a release date.

    It seems like the DCEU cannot catch a break.
     
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    Gosh. that's..really awful. I really feel bad for all of them, especially the daughter.
     
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    Billy Crudup didn't drop out.

    Billy Crudup Isn't Dropping Out of 'Flash' Movie
     
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    I'm already preparing well in advance of the division that WILL happen between Snyder & Whedon fans once this is released. No one is more finicky than comic & toy fanboys, and we all know damn well that fingers are going to get pointed all over the place. 100% guaranteed, just watch, the movie either "sucked because of Whedon!" or it "ruled because of Whedon!" depending who's saying it, followed by the defenses of condemnations of Snyder also depending who's saying it. And my favorite ALREADY are the equally 100% inevitable "der der, yeah, you can totally tell the scenes that Snyder did and the ones that Whedon did" bullshit assertions. As if this movie hasn't already been marred by enough, having a different director to come in and shoot additional scenes, write some stuff and handle post production is going to = total clusterfuck... regardless of the terribly sad and valid reasons for it. It's going to be a next level gong show of nerd rage masquerading as "critical reviews".
     
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    Yeah, can't argue with that. I know a few people on my Facebook that are likely chomping at the bit to proclaim the "movie was only good because of Whedon" part. Bleh.
     
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    Sorry I never saw an article to the contrary. Is Hollywood Reporter the only one reporting the contrary story?
    Also regardless it still doesn't help that The Flash lost two directors and is still without one (which is puzzling normally they find one right away.) and no release date either.
    Ezra Miller is a young kid, younger than most people realize and they may lose him or have to change the story depending on what they have planned. If they are planning an origin story then they need to get going or Ezra is going to look a lot older for something that is supposed to take place before Justice League. Just saying there are a lot of other factors that people may not have mentioned or thought about and that they need to get going on soon with The Flash.

    You can't please everyone. People will also just say "It ruled because of Whedon!" Even if on the inside they really thought the movie sucked just to prove a point, so they would never admit it.
     
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    Hollywood Reporter is the only one to post an article to the contrary. All the other websites who initially posted the rumor made an update on their original reports to link to the HR article, rather than make an all new one.