lol this guy. Literally everything he says about Marvel movies are bad and he's only doing so to mess with people. No one should take him seriously. Besides if he hated these movies why would he go out of his way to watch all of them in theaters? Does he enjoy having a bad time? As for the actual reviews this was something similar to what I expected. No sequel to this could live up to the first so knowing that it's still a great movie is good enough for me. What confuses me are the people panicking over it not being "the best movie of all time." It's great according to critics is that not enough?
I see what you're saying, but I disagree with the first part. GotG was good, great even, but a sequel certainly COULD live up to and surpass it. But fandoms make it virtually impossible to ever let it happen. Everyone expects a sequel in line with Empire Strikes Back or in modern times, The Dark Knight, but when/if it doesn't happen - according to fans than turn these first installment movies into f'ing quasi religious experiences - they brush them off as "not as good". In way of the MCU, it happened with Iron Man 2, it happened with Thor 2, it happened with Avengers 2, and it will seemingly happen here with GotG 2. I think the only one that got a collective pass was The Winder Soldier. But it'll happen again with Ant-Man 2, Strange 2, etc. But of course that's not to say that sometimes these sequels are NOT as good as the first, but nerd expectation vs. legitimate quality often blurs the lines of what is or isn't actually better.
Yeah that's true. GotG Vol. 3 has the potential to be better than 1 and 2 but fan expectations could potentially mess with the perceived expectations and that just sucks. So far what I've read is that Vol 2. is almost as good as the first and I'm just happy the drop in quality isn't as drastic as Days of Future Past to Apocalypse.
I wasn't particularly impressed with Days of Future Past either, so they didn't exactly waste any good will from me on that move.
Thought DoFP was up there at the top of the franchise (with X2). As far as why someone would watch movies he/she doesn't like, maybe it's because that person's waiting to be impressed?
Sometimes, but not in the case of Kingfish333. His posts are typically so redundant in a copy & paste way when it comes to everything Marvel, I was legitimately convinced for a long time that he was actually a spam-bot posting under a fake account. And I'm still not convinced that he isn't part of some WB funded click/post farm in India designated to signup to forums solely to thumb-up everything DC related and shit on everything Marvel related. It's one thing to have criticisms or even overt favoritism of one studio/comic over the other, but Kingfish333 is something different entirely.
Agree. You found my secret motive. I am from India and do work for WB. In no way could I dislike a movie or series of movies the majority like and be real. I'm blown away how you could easily figure it all out! Agree. I have hopes that Marvel impress me. I used to collect comics, almost all Marvel, so I have an attachment to the characters. The movies however, are less impressive. As for DOFP, it wasn't a bad movie, better then first class.
Don't worry, I realize that's not literally the case. It was a ridiculous example to highlight the ridiculousness of your assertions based on nothing. You are the same person, afterall, that will quote 1 negative review buried within 99 positive raving reviews and say nonsense like "See? Another Marvel failure!". And obviously I am FAR from the only one that's noticed your broken record almost troll-like pattern.
I kept getting distracted by its janky continuity (even ignoring the bits that it later retcons out, the connective tissue with First Class and The Wolverine - the film that ostensibly supposed to lead up into this - was shaky), plus the horrible special effects in the 1970s sequences just took me right out of it.
Great. I was worried you figured out my secret motives. Glad to see you're inclusive and open to other people's opinions!
Well that's the problem with your posts; you have rarely ever articulated an opinion. 99% of the time you never offer a criticism or anything remotely resembling a review - you just type out a quip "yup, another Marvel failure" one-liner and hit "post". No details, no reasons why you think that... nothing. And you do it EVERY single MCU related thread, often multiple times PER thread. Hate the Marvel movies all you want, but do so objectively and, ya know, maybe after actually seeing them. Because you know as well as we do that you type this nonsense out before ever actually watching them.
Agree. You also figured out I've actually never watched any of the Marvel movies. And so you don't out me again, I've never actually seen any comic book film! Not only are you open minded and tolerate of other people's opinions, you also know what they do or don't do in real life. Very impressive!
I don't think Inception is trying to say that you've never watched any of the MCU films. He is saying that you don't really provide constructive criticism to these films. It is always to know other people's perspectives and why they think that way. It helps us as board members understand each other better.
I didn't mind the lack of connection to the earlier films, as I was really just enjoying it as its own thing. What I liked was the thematic convergence of the two timelines at the end (and how the film built towards that), how the plot lines simultaneously climaxed to show the future as a consequence of the decisions being made in the past, and how with things were happening at the same time (according to the viewer's perspective), we could see the fluidity of time/history.
Disagree. His Last sentence made it clear he has the ability to know with certainty what I do or don't do. It's a rare gift, I think. It's sad minority opinions are mocked so openly and with high acceptance. Also, I feel sad that people know with certainty what others do or don't do, like or don't like because they are open to judging others. Such high moral judgement over strangers. Again, if what I write is considered inappropriate, lacks enough constructive criticism for the board members, insensitive or so crazy that people are either tired of it or find it wrong, the ignore button works on this site. I use it, it works. I haven't done anything wrong to have my posts be banned on here, and as long as I follow the rules (which I have), I'm allowed to post my opinions. If I'm acting inappropriately, Perhaps I should be reported to the moderators? I know, in the past, when I've spoken to them about the various insults thrown my way, we discussed the movies and what they implied as some form of elitism (or mockery of others) on the boards. They seem to understand people are allowed to have opinions. And, opinions within the site rules are ok, and board members shouldn't be insulted because of that.
Could reply without the sass. says the DC movie elitist himself, you're starting to run circles, how about we just drop it.
Agree. This thread was to be about the GOTG2 movie, not personal attacks. Sad it ended up that way. And FYI- I personally think if you compare all of Marvel's movies (MCU, fox, Sony, etc) with All of DCs (Batmans, dark knight trilogy, DCEU), Marvel is slightly ahead. So it's not about Liking DC more than Marvel or vice Versa. Plus, as I mentioned before, I used to clollect almost all of Marvel Comics, so I actually like the Marvel characters better.
I don't think GOTG2 could ever really live up to the first in that part of the magic of it was getting a movie that not only had to introduce an entirely new team of superheroes composed of characters nobody had ever heard of before but also make us care about them. It was a difficult scenario ans yet it absolutely achieved its goals. It was what Suicide Squad desperately wanted to be.
