Masterpiece Megatron V2.0 has arrived... and he is GLORIOUS

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  1. BIOMEC

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    I got a few marks on the pistol from sliding the silencer on and off. But now biggie, it was bound to happen.

    Any case, what's the big deal for people who are picky about the orange plug?
     
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    You have to add an ending where is face is off showing the inner parts. Would be hilarious.
     
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    I just love this figure. The poses he can pull off are limitless, and the likeness is spot on. I can't understand how someone could find fault with this. 1984 Deceptions assembled!
     

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  6. ex dtw2003

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    For all the "this transformation is sooooo intuitive", I just gotta say "No, it isn't."

    The legs and hips aren't so bad once you get the hang of them with the legs being the better of those two. But the shoulders are a mess. Forearms are ok, but the crazy twisting going on in those shoulders is not by any regard "intuitive".

    I've gone into gun mode twice now and am now trying to get back to bot. It'll happen but it isn't "fun".

    Could it be fun? Yeah, IF I didn't think I was going to break so joints in and around the shoulder. If so many joints/tabs weren't so ridiculously sticky (paint tolerance issue). And if using the accessories didn't make me worry about scuffing the figure even more.

    Maybe others peoples figures don't have the tolerance issues mine does and I can see that making a big difference.
     
  7. shadowfall1976

    shadowfall1976 The Alpha and the Optimus

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    It likely will stay that consistency for a while. The barrel plug wasn't even close to a snug fit, all that held it in in fact was glue. I couldn't put it back in if i wanted to for whatever reason, the diameter of the plug is way smaller than the ID of the barrel, so, even if the glue does set some, you should still be able to remove the plug. The Silencer plug however is the diameter of the inner Silencer and is a snugger fit.
     
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    Received mine from Amazon.JP, shipped over in only two days and very smoothly.

    He's a very interesting figure in many ways and follows a current trend of the MP line-up: brilliant transformations, striking cartoon silhouettes and overall accuracy of both modes, and great accessories from iconic moments.

    Like a lot of the recent MPs, the big downside is looking quite panel-y (especially in alt modes) for the sake of an accurate silhouette. Up close it bothers me, but from 3ft away or more they look amazing. I would say the same about Primal, Cheetor, and even Bumblebee (or some of the other cars).

    It's obviously the current compromise the designers have accepted, and for the benefits it opens up I'm on board with it until they invent a better way to do things.

    Also, interacting with older models in the line (Grimlock, MP-1, even MP-10) after MP-36 makes them feel extremely dated. Transformations, pose ability, and overall proportions just aren't as good. It really showcases the progression of the line.
     
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    Or maybe for those that , you know, want all the logos on their MP figures to, uh, match.
     
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    shadowfall1976 The Alpha and the Optimus

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    Other than the arms going into gun mode, which I'm sure I was doing something slightly wrong, I had no issues with transformation to either mode. Didn't feel like I was breaking anything at all at any point, not even a single stress mark. A few chips yeah, and likely because I had one thing off at one point. I removed the chest and face to avoid any damages, makes zero difference in the alt mode aesthetics.
     
  11. shadowfall1976

    shadowfall1976 The Alpha and the Optimus

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    If not for effin Hot Rod... Damn Turbo revvin young punk.
     
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    Thanks, homie. Shockwave was painted by @Yaujta.
     
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    That last arm swing into gun mode and also getting the gun barrel into place is scary for me.
     
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    Very well said, I was going to post something along these line but you've kind of done my work for me, but I'll add to it. Not only have they managed to pull off such incredible likeness but what makes it more impressive than the third parties attempts is that despite his kibble TT have more confinements in which they have to work within.

    Their robot has to strongly resemble the toon, therefore having some key elements in Megatron's design in that medium, a slightly big head, which by the way looks nowhere as bad in hand as it does in the photos, Megatron has to be leggy with a relatively smaller torso but also...they have to do all of this while making Megatron transform a certain way, the classical way, homaging/mimicking the cartoon for him to be considered masterpiece. For Megatron that would be his legs, side by side, becoming the handle of the of the gun and the torso and arm bits becoming the top of the gun etc.

    With more rigid guidelines that TT had to follow there was always going to be an inevitable compromise which is next to negligible to me considering the amazing engineering feat that they've pulled off with MP-36, a phenomenal figure, indeed. Chugstertron for instance didn't have such strict guidelines, he wasn't made to look like the toon and more importantly transform like similarly either. It's why I can't even consider him masterpiece, quite frankly. I'm sure if TT would have made a Megatron which didn't have a strong likeness to the toon and didn't transform like it either, with their brilliant designers, they could have easily come up with a figure with less kibble than Chugstertron.
     
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    shadowfall1976 The Alpha and the Optimus

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    I was watching Titan's Return reviews and one guy loved to point out his pet peeves in every video... Really...shut up man. And yeah, I hate a biased reviewer, especially if they don't pay for the figures they review. One for Megatron here didn't even taken time to mess with him before complaining that the scope didn't go on right...of course not, you were putting the damn thing on the forearm all wrong. Open the box on the did...OK, now pause and mess with it, read the instructions or watch another review...I mean damn.

    Most reviews of guys I've never watched before I end up stopping about 2 minutes in becausenin those two mins, they've already been critical, one was critical over the inner tray of CW Sky Lynx not being thick enough cardboard...WTF?

    Are you exaggerating or no? It took me 20 minutes or less for gun mode and maybe 10 to go back, first time doing it. Not disrespecting just asking, I can see how it could take a while, dunno why I was able to so fast, maybe the reviews.

    The plug is honestly an eyesore amidst all that light Gray, and, the Silencer can't plug in with it on since a portion inside slides into the barrel. It could be painted, but the interaction of the Silencer is compromised with it on.
     
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    shadowfall1976 The Alpha and the Optimus

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    All of the compromises are acceptable IMO, pics exaggerate things greatly, especially ones blown up to HD screen sizes. And in hand the head is not as big as pics make it seem.

    I'd rather have panel lines in alt mode and some panels folded up in bot mode if it gets me something far more accurate to the Megatron I know so well vs some stylized thick and blocky version, or one that fits more as a CHUG than MP.

    For one thing, they are transforming robots, so, some panels and lines are perfectly fine by me, had I wanted no panels or lines, I'd buy a Revoltech or a statue and a real gun and call it a day.
     
  17. madhatprime

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    Anyone see any reviews, ir have pics of the HLJ megs with thr plugs?
     
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    For me, it's not about the fact that the Fuso's have a clean back specifically, it's that TT did what no one attempted, and managed to hide the ladder and crane period. If doing so left a little greebly panels identical to Megatron's in the exact same spot, the ladder hiding would still be equally as impressing. That's their "thing", their cool MP "trick". It's the overall "clean" silhouette I'm impressed with, not the clean back panel. (FWIW, I find Grapple's back a little ugly with the duel sets of buttflaps, and the large chunk of kibble on his calves. But that doesn't take away from the impressive way it gets there.) The downside is the short, non rotating ladder and crane boom.

    Likewise, Megatron's got so many cool trick's, my favorite the collapsing and super clean legs. His downside is a kibbly back and panely gun mode. But the payoff is worth it, IMO.

    It's all a matter, of "how much does this "flaw" matter to you."
     
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    Megatron is a human shaped robot that turns into a pistol. From a poorly drawn 80s animated show that took things like physics and logic as suggestions. To make a masterpiece figure as incredible show accurate as mp36 and somehow make him transform into a realistic gun and then have people whine about his legs flopping when they shaken him violently like maniacs is not a valid argument this figure sucks. It's just someone hell bent on not liking the figure and going out of his way to find anything

    Also I agree a lot of 3rd party efforts blow takara out of the water as far as quality. Quakewave vs Laser wave as an obvious example.

    But MP-36 isn't one of those examples. I think takara sometimes takes its foot of the pedal when it comes to some MPs. Laser wave and Rodimus 2.0 feel like a cheaper toy line than something like MP-10 or MP-11
     
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    Finally got my MP-36 in hand! Ordered mine from BBTS, and to note for anyone else that bought from there it looks like they used a strong rubber type cement to hold the plugs in place. A couple of minutes of dipping the tips in boiling water was all it took to get them loose. The residue inside the barrels was easy to clean up after.

    Just looking at the visual difference between MP-5 and MP-36 is staggering. MP-5 is so goofy looking and floppy as hell in comparison. Amazing what 10 years of developing engineering techniques can do for a figure.

    Gonna try transforming him in a bit.
     

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