Well, they should've thought about that when this franchise started right? They've been diving both Autobots and Decepticons based on their appearance from the get go, more heavily around DOTM.

 

I know, I'm just saying that that's what the trend has been and that there really is no need for it to change. Was it ever explained why Autbotos have blue eyes, why they don't speak Cybertronian, why they are smaller than the Decepticons in most cases? No, cause those things are meant to make them look more vulnarable.
Lockdown and his minions were never Devepticons.
Okay, without those giveaways would've Barricade been recognizable, hardly I think?

 

Yes, the change is needed. These movies are far from perfect and there's plenty of room for improvement. Your argument with the Autobots falls through considering Prime spoke Cybertronian and the Dinobots are massive.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say about Barricade. Obviously, Barricade wouldn't be recognizable without his police car alt-form and his slogan, I mean—that's what makes Barricade him.

This argument reminds of when old fans were repulsed by the new direction Bay was taking with the first film. If you like the older movie designs, don't worry, you have 3 films established with them. Otherwise, change is inevitable; people will have to learn to cope with it.

 

Ya I thought for sure they would speak in AOE, hopefully in tlk they'll talk since Lorenzo said there adding more character to the Dinobots in this movie.

 

Yeah, this basically describes what I was trying to say in the other thread about Bumblebee and his character growth and how his voice restoration will serve as a tool for that.

 

I have to agree with Music on this. While I don't have a problem with the concept of animalistic Decepticons, in and of itself, the movies have always used it as a way to detach the audience from them, which is by far my biggest criticism towards these films. Transformers is meant to treat its main villains the same as its heroes, a positive tradition born from the need to get kids to want their toys. The Decepticon characters are often the best parts of the franchise and the films' dehumanization of them is perhaps the biggest crime towards the franchise they've committed. While I'm not too fond of AOE's overly humanoid Autobots, it was used as a visual statement of the fact that the films were finally returning to treating them as people and I hope that the more humanoid Decepticons implies that, in TLK, the 'Cons will finally be treated like people, too.

 

I can't judge the designs, since we still haven't seen everyone. But on the whole I'm not happy that they're still doing more humanoid designs like in AOE, I just hope they get the transformations and vehicle parts all right.

Bee and Optimus Prime - nothing too new, but good enough designs.

Barricade - I like the knuckledusters, but I find his original 2007 design to be more menacing.




Hound - I just noticed that the tyres split into feet. Does that even work? And how can he carry all that dakka on his body without it banging together and going boom?


I hope the other transformers will be more encouraging.

 

Why is change needed for some things and unecessary for others?   Bumblebee shouldn't change but the cool-looking alien Decepticons should. I'm sorry this is all wrong and I strongly disagree.

 

I think that's an evolution from Movie 1-3 Optimus - his tires also split in robot mode. Not into feet, but parts of the tires split. (not sure how I can explain this really, check the picture  )

 

I just explained what's wrong with the Decepticon designs, so I don't know what you're confused about.

 

Barricade you used to be sexy what happened!?

XD

I dig the body design I do, wish he had claws and the 'wings' on his shoulders always liked the tires on the wrist....but that face...or lack of. That's not even a humanoid face that's a BumbleBee face just like Hod Rod's. I seriously hope its a battle mask because I don't see how that is meant to be expressive and animated.

I get the whole 'Cons will finally be treated like people, too.' thing soundwaverulls said and I agree. The Decepticons are my favorite and it sucks that they get shown as one-dimensional target practice XD but that face still looks bug-like but with hardly any human like features.


But again....we haven't seen it animated so perhaps it will be alright. I hope...

Barricade is like the last surviving Con from film 1 (not including Megatron) The few remaining originals hold a special place in my heart lol I don't want him to have like one scene and it just be his death or just him getting his ass kicked. XD

 

100%!  

 

I am well aware that Lockdown and company are not Decepticons. My point was that just because a character is a villain or a member of a particular fraction it does not mean that the characters have to look monstrous or can't have a range of appearances. I think both Autobots and Decepticons should have more and less human-looking members.

And that second part doesn't matter; it's enough to show he's Barricade.

 

Of course you won't know. I was reffering to an argument I had a week ago in a different thread about Bee's voice or should I say lack of...but anyways I still think they should've kept the predatory characteristics of the original Decepticons!

 

I never said they shouldn't have a large variety of apperances, just that I like the beast/preadorish look they used to have back in the day and that they shouldn't have abandoned the idea, at least with Barricade since I like him.
Oh and I don't believe he would've been recognizable, without his cop-features he just looks like a KSI drone.

 

Gorgeous. Prime has his blue eyes back too.

 

It's actually his tires splitting and folding over his tires. Trucks have two tires on each wheel in the back, and Optimus' rear wheels compressed the two tires into one tire width so his wheels didn't stick out so far from his legs. (every toy got around this by just giving him unrealistic truck wheels in back)

He got shot in the face repeatedly with AP rounds.

I'd wear a helmet, too.

 

Oh ok didnt know that

 

The image was fine. But the point is Optimus's tyres did not become feet. They were probably positioned where his heels were like roller skates, but he did not use them as such.

So the question is, how is Hound's tyre-feet able to support his weight?

And thus another Decepticon ends up as Bee's visual counterpart.

First it was Soundwave, then Stinger, and now Barricade.

 

God, I really, REALLY hate these new designs.