Please, tell me more about how I suddenly have the power to read minds to know what isn't said.

 

Dude are you even going to contribute to this thread? Because the mods don't like it when people only post in quotes.

 

Fair enough, that's just an old thing of mine.

Just trying to point out you go from quoting the article, which says TLK is stand alone, to saying Bonaventura says don't watch the others.

 

See Burnout this is what I'm talking about. You just come across as being so furious about what the interview said or really any news of the future TF movies plans to the point of being so obsessed about it and wanting to rip it a new one every chance you get. It's like the instance you hear any news of TLK you quickly get triggered and throw a massive tantrum about why you hate it. The reason why I've brought up the Beast Machines bit was to show that there's a difference between explaining why you don't think this is the right direction for a film series to take and acting like the movie did something personally horrible to you or a loved one to warrant such aggressive hatred. Being angry at a movie can only take you so far before you need to take a step back and remember that it's just a movie and move on with your life. If you really have no plans to see any more TF movies then why are you still bothering coming to any Tf movie related news and getting worked up about something you know makes you upset? It's not healthy.

Also how do you know you aren't taking what Lorenzo is saying the wrong way? No one is saying that what you've read is wrong so is there any need to get so defensive about it?

 

...so you quoted me quoting the article? Because that was a direct quote. All I did was bold the specific part.

The dude legitimately couldn't go five sentences without using the word 'mythology' and couldn't remember the BB film is due in 2018 despite this being set in stone since the beginning of this year by Hasbro themselves.

This is not the kind of response you want from a guy so important to multi-million dollar productions. He's outright contradicting everything the Writers Room supposedly already had set in stone. This is what you want forging the future of the franchise? Word of a guy who honest to God could not give a straight answer to 'are people going to enjoy watching this film' in a 'yes or no' manner?

Funny, I don't think that's true.

I explained why in my last response. The entire franchise is tied into the movies whether I like it or not, so I'm forced to keep myself appraised.

Because every time I post my opinion I get attacked over it because my opinion is so strongly negative? Two people showed up to not even talk about the interview but to attack me directly.

 

Yes. I quote you acknowledging exactly what he says, and then I also quote you changing your story about what he says.

I should have just annotated the quotes in the first place. I have a bad habit of just pairing quotes to imply things.

 

I have to agree with Lord Tron that the general audience hearing the word "Quintesson" would not do much. However, once they hear the word "Creator" they instantly know the relationship of Lockdown's employers to Cybertronians.

Also, just because there are bad humans involved doesn't mean humans are now the sole deciding factor. On the contrary, the humans had a competent and skilled Cybertornian bounty hunter who had a range of resources at his disposal as an ally, and KSI were only able to build their prototypes due to getting information from and being manipulated by the incredibly resilient leader of the Decepticons. Megatron fooled almost everyone. Even Lockdown had no idea that by catching Prime and giving humans the Seed that he was giving Galvatron what he wanted. The humans were so full of themselves that their hubris blinded them to what was really going. Ego can be a powerful thing. Even Lockdown had a cynical viewpoint toward the egocentricity of his own human allies.

Also, there are billions of humans on Earth. If any Transformers killed Cemetery Wind goons when they and Lockdown were hunting them I am sure the human casualties got replaced really soon. The Autobots don't have that luxury in the context of the movie.

And the elevator sequence is hardly the most brought up point about AOE. "Romeo and Juliet" is brought up more so, but even then it isn't any more out there than some other scenes in the films.

Also, I have never seen Twilight, so I have no opinion of it, but I would at least watch it with an open mind whether I ended up actually liking it or not.

And it's perfectly fine if you dislike any of the films. We all have our preferences, and that's perfectly okay, but by the same token they shouldn't make you legitimately angry by any stretch.

 

I my god, you guys have such Problems.

You know what? Everybody who hates the Movies, is not a REAL Transformers Fan.
BECAUSE what you say makes no sense at all.

this "It is not like G1" does NOT make sense at all, because in the G1 Cartoons it is the SAME.

Autobot VS Decepticons, War, trying to Kill each other, some Humans here and there

what are the Movies?

Autobots VS Decepticons, War, trying to Kill each other, some Humans here and there

Do you guys notice something?

In my Opinion, these STUPID Humans play a Role that is to BIG in the Movies.
The Story is about Robots after all. Compared to TF 4 i hate Transformers 1, because the stupid Humans
and the brainless Military have to much screen Time.

There should be more Screentime for Optimus, that is why i love TF 4 so much, they said in the beginning
it is going to be a "Black Hawk Down" Version of Transformers, and it was done so good.

Now in Transformers 5....the brainless Military is back again.

I really hope for these things in Transformers 5:

- That the Movie will be at least 3 Hours long (Because you can not put that much story in 2 Hours, it is just not possible)
- That Optimus will not be the "Villain"
- That Optimus AND Megatron will finally fight TOGETHER against a REAL Villain, just like in Transformers Armada

These 3 thing above would be absolute Badass, Optimus + Megatron VS Unicron (or another Villain) would just freak me out like
"oh my God how awesome"

Just enjoy the Movies. They are realistic, have awesome Animations, and awesome Character Art.

If i would see G1 Megatron in these Movies (Gun Mode, lazy stupid Transformations)
i would say "What stupid Shit is this" and would leave the Cinema.

 

I did not know liking shit movies was a requirement for being a REAL fan. Ah well, no point being a fake fan! Time to join a new fandom!

 

It's the flaw with the whole "soft reboot" concept. That hey some people liked the mess enough to spend money to see it so we can't step on those toes because we need those people to line up again and again for our dream of an endless franchise. But a little fix here and an ignore that really bad thing there isn't really enough turn things around to get people who stopped paying to see the franchise films to start lining up to pay again. Soft reboots and little fixes haven't turned around the domestic box office, the only fix that has really helped a box office was to film in China, play up filming in China to potential Chinese ticket buyers, and to advertise like mad in China because it's the cheapest place to advertise.

Paramount has already tried the soft reboot and tiny fix solutions on GI Joe, Star Trek, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but for some reason the studio still lives in terror of real reboots and big fixes so they will stick with the dream that they can make Star Wars money at some point if they just keep soft rebooting Transformers.

They also suffer from the vision of one director that other studios have ran into. I love Peter Jackson's work but even I'll say they needed a different director for The Hobbit. Something to make the films feel different than Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings. The Warner Brother DC films have the problem of hard to win people back over if everything has to feel like the Zack Snyder version of the DC universe. I get the bad feeling that the Bumblebee movie is going to have to feel like a Bay film because Paramount has fallen into the one vision mentality that too many studios have fallen into.

 

Its still early to say that, if they are truly going to explain the origins of the Transformers in this movie, then this could easily explain how the Allspark fits with the Quints and the creation of the Transformers, lets see first how they handle this

in regards to Lorenzo, what i think he means is that they are making sure the movie can be acceseable to first time viewers, for example this is what Joss Whedon did with Age of Ultron, he said he wrote the movie with people that saw no marvel movie before and these that only saw the first Avengers in mind, as he knew there would be people that skipped Iron Man 3, Thor 2 and Cap 2 or just some of them, or people that neither saw Avengers 1 and the rest of phase 2, so he made sure Ultron could be viewed by first time watcher, i think thats what they are doing here.

Lets just say if for a miracle this movie gets excellent reviews, if not at least TF1 level of praise, then some people that may had skipped on the sequels either because they hated them or were turned away due to bad word of mouth, may decide to give this movie a shot because they heard good things, but they will be missing alot of information because they skipped on the previous films, so in order to make sure they can see this new movie, you have to make sure you can allow the viewer see this movie without getting confused (And there are people that skipped on the sequels, but are interested in this one, as i've seen few reaction videos of people that admitted on skipping on for example Age of Extinction, but liked the teaser of Last Knight and may be willing to give Last Knight a shot)

 

I`m stoked to see how this all pans out .

 

Since they claim to be taking inspirations from different TFs media we should get a dark Energon introduced in TLK right? Because I can't help but think of dark Energon when I see Optimus' purple eyes. It instantly reminds me of TFP, so I guess they could do their "movie" depiction of it.

 

To me it seems that with the answer about Batman, he almost confirm that Optimus is not going to die...

 

I'm with burnout on this, and he's entitled to his opinion,however I'm with him on this only for the fact it appears they've gone full media hype mode for this movie , and he is trying his hardest to sell something to an imaginary room full of people who don't know more about his product than he does, for me he is fuelling the marketing campaign nothing more, adding buzz words into dialogue trying to get people hooked through using basic NLP techniques, except he's shit at it haha! So there he is at the front of this imaginary room selling people TLK, we can tell from the trailer and the transformers interviews and leaks so far that it's going to be epic and another crazy but enjoyable rollercoaster ride from start to finish, in a way only bay can do. Casual fans sorted and catered for. But he's in our imaginary room here, and we are a heck of a lot harder sell than your average person, and we know his product better than he does, so my only potential gripe and for anyone else who loves the transformers movie universe because of its potential to immerse ourselves in a realistic vision of transformers, there is one comment he makes that is kinda heartbreaking and should just have made us instantly head butt our desks in unison, especially after the effort of creating a cinematic universe...... if and I mean IF his comment is to be taken at face value.....that they are undecided if each film should be standalone or not and that they will make that decision on a film by film basis.....then rather than building a lore bigger better and more expansive and even encompassing the first trilogy's events, they have just delved deeper into transformers mythology and history to try and expand their storytelling abilities and create more £billion£ movies the writers room if he is to be taken on his word here, was not about creating a flowing and compelling universe rich in continuity and relevance, that makes sense and makes you crave what's next....as in say , the Star Wars franchise....in my opinion the main transformers movies should hold a core timeline that is central to everything else they do and the other movies like bees movies should branch off and add richness and new avenues to explore, maybe that's the plan as I think he mentioned tf6 I believe, anyway had my say here lol

 

Right ok! I'm wading in about squeeks now!

Let's make this discussion productive!!

It seems he's a mini con/micro master type bot, where if so he can upgrade other transformers, also I'm wondering if the thing Lorenzo mentions about his character produces one of the films amazing scenes and he proves himself....is it he joins with Bee (upgrading him) ??? Or is he a beta maxx type character that can also double as a key for vector sigma in his alt mode (once he rediscovers how to transform!) could explain a lot and gives weight to the interview comments also !? Thoughts people? Could this really be a thing?

 

"A lot of things are answered here at Stonehenge."

 

This guy and Trump must have the same speech writers. .